Ask the Wirshem brothers. Louie lives in Rochester and Dave is in the area somewhere. They are WCHA members and both owned one I think. If anyone remembers Bud Steeb's "Baby", that was one as well, quite a canoe. "Baby" belonged to Specs, the Genesee Valley Park Boathouses curator. My Dad worked there as a kid and remembers Specs taking Baby to Florida in the winter and fishing for sharks out of it! I think Baby is still owned by a family member. Bud made it to the assembly a few times, quite a guy.