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Dave Osborn
LIFE MEMBER
Looks like an Old Town Deck to me......
Greg Nolan
enthusiast
If your canoe is an Old Town (as the deck could indicated) the Old Town canoe with serial number 4580 is shown as 16 feet long, CS (common sense) grade, HW model with western cedar planking, spruce gunwales, ash decks, seats, and thwarts. The date stamps on the build record are not readable. The original exterior paint color was dark green. It was shipped to H.B.Crosier in Jackson, Michigan on May 21, 1906. A scan of this build record can be found by following the link behind the thumbnail image attached below.
This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/about-the-wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://store.wcha.org/WCHA-New-Membership.html to join.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. The indicated length is different than indicated by the full number you provided.
If that is the case, photographs of the deck, side profile, seats, and other details would be helpful in identifying the canoe. Does the canoe have the typical OT diamond head bolts?
Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Greg
This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/about-the-wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://store.wcha.org/WCHA-New-Membership.html to join.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. The indicated length is different than indicated by the full number you provided.
If that is the case, photographs of the deck, side profile, seats, and other details would be helpful in identifying the canoe. Does the canoe have the typical OT diamond head bolts?
Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Greg
SteveDetwiler
Curious about Wooden Canoes
Thanks Greg. I suspect it is another manufacturer - no OT decal, no diamond head bolts. It measures 18' as indicated in serial #'s. I'll have to get it outside for more photos (stored in a crawl space under a porch now).
MGC
Scrapmaker
Steve.....don't rule out OT due to the diamond heads or decals. If it is an older canoe then it would not have diamond head bolts. OT started using those in the early 20's (?).
And decals often don't often survive refinishing.
The deck does look OT.......but to contrast here is a picture of a 1906 deck. The curves are not the same.
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H.E. Pennypacker
LOVES Wooden Canoes
Try the same number for Carleton.
There are no Carleton records for this serial number which implies that this number was issued before Old Town purchased Carleton in 1910. My guess is that there are some hidden digits. Please review the tips described at http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?791 to see if you can find them and post some pictures of the stems from each end. Thanks,
Benson
Dan Lindberg
Ex Wood Hoarder
MGC,
Is that the original deck in your 1906? It looks a bit "newer", ie closer to the late deck style.
I have a 1928 HW, SN 96206, that has decks that look exactly like the one Steve shows, except they are ash.
It does have the diamond bolts though.
Dan
Is that the original deck in your 1906? It looks a bit "newer", ie closer to the late deck style.
I have a 1928 HW, SN 96206, that has decks that look exactly like the one Steve shows, except they are ash.
It does have the diamond bolts though.
Dan
MGC
Scrapmaker
Yes....very definitely.
