Seliga canoe information wanted
- Thread starter JDB
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Dan Lindberg has created an comprehensive summary of Seliga canoes and his spreadsheet indicates that the Seliga canoe with number 5 63 4 253 is a 17 foot long model which was the third one that he built in 1963. It was canoe number 253 and the actual canoe number was 191. The color was green and it may have originally been covered with fiberglass. The buyer was Sommers number 70 from Minnesota. It was shipped in May, 1963. Dan often monitors this forum and may jump in with more information. I was not able to find one with number 5834253.
Benson
Benson
Dan Lindberg
Ex Wood Hoarder
J,
Your S/N is 5 63 4 253. (month - year - code "4" for double end canoe - canoe number)
It was built in 1963, and started in May, and is double canoe # 253, this is the 191st canoe Joe built.
It was originally bought by Sommers Canoe base and was their 70th Seliga.
Not much is entered for this canoe relative to wood species and construction methods.
And if fact, if you could provide a description and/or pics that would help in nearing down when Joe did things. ie, what width planking, what is the shape of the edge of the decks, does it still have a decal, if so, which one, what wood species is the trim. etc.
This is a good example of the difficulty in "reading" Joe's S/N's, without the Record to looks at.
The numbers "5834253" don't match any S/N in the record.
Wrong possiblities are:
5 83 4 253 - wrong because in 1983 the code for the month is last and the "4" was dropped.
5 83 425 3 - wrong because there are 2 month codes, which Joe didn't do.
Note: a real S/N that is close is 83 465 3.
58 3 4 253 - also wrong because in 1958 a code for the month (3) was not included and because Joe never put the month code between the year and canoe number.
Dan
Your S/N is 5 63 4 253. (month - year - code "4" for double end canoe - canoe number)
It was built in 1963, and started in May, and is double canoe # 253, this is the 191st canoe Joe built.
It was originally bought by Sommers Canoe base and was their 70th Seliga.
Not much is entered for this canoe relative to wood species and construction methods.
And if fact, if you could provide a description and/or pics that would help in nearing down when Joe did things. ie, what width planking, what is the shape of the edge of the decks, does it still have a decal, if so, which one, what wood species is the trim. etc.
This is a good example of the difficulty in "reading" Joe's S/N's, without the Record to looks at.
The numbers "5834253" don't match any S/N in the record.
Wrong possiblities are:
5 83 4 253 - wrong because in 1983 the code for the month is last and the "4" was dropped.
5 83 425 3 - wrong because there are 2 month codes, which Joe didn't do.
Note: a real S/N that is close is 83 465 3.
58 3 4 253 - also wrong because in 1958 a code for the month (3) was not included and because Joe never put the month code between the year and canoe number.
Dan
Tom Widney
LOVES Wooden Canoes
Is this the canoe that was purchased at the Sommers Canoe Base Alumni Reunion last week end, that belonged to Owen Gibbs?
Tom
Tom
Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
Dan Lindberg is the Seliga historian. If you have specific questions, he's your man! Otherwise, there's a book about Joe:
http://woodencanoe.org/catalog/prod...d=439&osCsid=c1c4693dbfb784b0fcf09b25a7a647d9
And a website:
http://home.comcast.net/~seligacanoe/
And a Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Seliga
And a great YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c26qwzutxec
(get out your hankie for that one!)
Kathy
http://woodencanoe.org/catalog/prod...d=439&osCsid=c1c4693dbfb784b0fcf09b25a7a647d9
And a website:
http://home.comcast.net/~seligacanoe/
And a Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Seliga
And a great YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c26qwzutxec
(get out your hankie for that one!)
Kathy
Dan Lindberg
Ex Wood Hoarder
John,
If you could either post some pics here or mail them to me that would be helpful.
And if you could provide the info I mentioned in my previous post that would also be helpful.
As for when it was built, Joe "assigned" a serial number and stamped it into the stem when he started the building process. Often the number was also "assigned" to the person who requested the canoe also.
In this case, he started it in May, and he may have taken 2-3 weeks to get it to the point of being canvased and filled. Then it sat for a while. The times from start to delivor or pick-up range from as short as 1.5 months to 6-8 months.
Dan
If you could either post some pics here or mail them to me that would be helpful.
And if you could provide the info I mentioned in my previous post that would also be helpful.
As for when it was built, Joe "assigned" a serial number and stamped it into the stem when he started the building process. Often the number was also "assigned" to the person who requested the canoe also.
In this case, he started it in May, and he may have taken 2-3 weeks to get it to the point of being canvased and filled. Then it sat for a while. The times from start to delivor or pick-up range from as short as 1.5 months to 6-8 months.
Dan
Tom Widney
LOVES Wooden Canoes
Holrye...John,
As you can see Dans your man, he will be interested in Owen's name and all the particulars. I can't remember the gentlemans name who did the restoration and it may not be applicable. I'm glad it got a good home and paddle it often.
Red eye
Tom
As you can see Dans your man, he will be interested in Owen's name and all the particulars. I can't remember the gentlemans name who did the restoration and it may not be applicable. I'm glad it got a good home and paddle it often.
Red eye
Tom
clrose56377
New Member
Seliga restoration
Gang,
Steve Spencer (www.quietcanoes.com) did the restoration. The planking is 6-inch WRC and it was originally glassed.
Chuck Rose
Gang,
Steve Spencer (www.quietcanoes.com) did the restoration. The planking is 6-inch WRC and it was originally glassed.
Chuck Rose
Dan Lindberg
Ex Wood Hoarder
Thanks Chuck,
I was wondering about that.
Dan
I was wondering about that.
Dan
