Old Town Build Info

Russell Dyer

Curious about Wooden Canoes
A few weeks ago I posted a build info search on an OldTown14 ft Charles River Run About. At that time I didn't have the boat in my possession. I now have the boat and the ser # is 186868. The last # 8 is hard to read but I am almost sure it is an 8. Any info would be appreciated.

Russ Dyer
 
The Old Town canoe with serial number 186868 is a 17 foot long, Carleton model color yellow. It was built in June 1971, shipped to Liverpool, New York. A scan of this build record can be found by following the link at the attached thumbnail image below.

This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to join.

It is also possible that they could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

- Al
 

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Old Town Boat

The Boat I have is 14 ft long and has sponsons. it has about a 1/4 deck.
I found the # 0n the knee at the transom. There is an old town decal on the fore combing. the # 186868 is plan except for the last 8. There is also the # 14 stamped before the ser#
Russ Dyer
 
Russ: I ran the series 18686x and found three 14' s, all Carleton models. I've attached those 3 build records. Check to make sure that neither of the "8"'s are "3"'s. If you have another possibility, just put another request in.

Have a great Christmas, Al
 

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Hi Russ,

Your description sounds like the 14 foot long square stern sponson model as shown in the catalog page attached below from the 1947 catalog. These were listed in the Old Town catalogs from 1931 to 1964. The chart at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/oldtown_chart.html shows that your serial number should be between about 105,000 and 175,000 to match these dates. The build record will probably look similar to the one for serial number 136862 as shown in the second attachment below with a 44 inch deck. Please take another look at the serial number or attach an image of it so we can better respond to your request for more information. Thanks,

Benson
 

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Old Town Boat

Hi Al,

I am not familiar with the Carlton Model but the boat I have is 14 ft long and has a 4 ft beam. It has a deck that comes back 44" from the bow. It also has sponsons and a keel. I believe the original color was red. There is the # 14 stamped a head of the #186868. What if you run the ser# as 14 186868.
Thank you for all your help in trying to solve this mystery.

Russ Dyer
 
After Taking some close up photos I find thar the last # is 2. It appears that the second # is a 3 stamped up side down so it appeared to be an 8.
The # is 136862 and appears to be the boat that you sent me the buid info on.
Thank you for the info and I can foward you the photo if you ate interested.

Russ Dyer
 
The Old Town with serial number 136862 is a 14 foot long, CS (Common Sense) grade, Square Stern model with open spruce gunwales, 44 inch ash decks, spruce seats, a keel, outside stems, a floor rack, sponsons, and wide seats with folding backs. It was built between January and May, 1943. The original exterior paint color was dark red with a T. (Tropical) red bottom and Merle(?) on the right bow. It was shipped on May 14th, 1943 to Old Town, Maine. It was returned for repairs on November 18th, 1946 as shown on the back side of the card. The repairs included a new outside rail, burning off the old paint and repainting it all with the original colors. Scans showing both sides of this build record can be found by following the links at the attached thumbnail image below and with my previous message.

These scans and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to join.

It is also possible that they could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your boat. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

Benson
 

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Old Town SQ Stern

Thank you for the information. The Boat 136862 fits my boat to a T. It is without a doubt the boat I have.

Thank you very much for your efforts.
Russ Dyer
 
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