Keneo Special #2172

obriengreg

Curious about Wooden Canoes
I'm looking for information on a kennebec Keneo Special serial number 2172. It has an oval brass plate on the front deck with this info. It has a square back that is probably not original and small sponsons.

Also, what is the best way to remove fiberglass?

Thanks

Greg
 
hi Greg

You'll know the best way to remove 'glass------after.
Hopefully it isn't epoxy and the job was not well done. then it comes off easier. What I've done:
1) sink it in the pond for a week. (optional)
2) remove keel/'whales etc.
3) try to get the 'glass to let go using putty knife and heat gun or very carefully use a hand held propane torch outdoors with a means of putting it out if it gets away from you. Go easy. Usually you put the heat to it and it will bubble up and let go. Sometimes it comes off in big sheets. sometimes a small piece at a time.
 
Picturing that process...

I'll provide a couple pictures of my friend Denis Kallery de-glassing a BN Morris we found on eBay. The heat gun worked well, although the process was tedious. There's a sense of accomplishment, finding nice wood grain under all the goup and bad color.
 

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The Kennebec canoe with serial number 2172 is shown on pages 54 and 55 of volume one in the Kennebec ledgers. This was assigned to a 16 foot long Kineo Model. The rails were "Sp" (Spruce?), the stems were "Ced" (white cedar?), and the planks were "W Ced" (Western red cedar?). It was planked by Morgan on March 25th, 1911. The decks were "15 M" (15 inch mahogany?). The canvas was "54-10" (54 inchs wide and number ten weight?). The canvas covering was applied by Stens on February 16th, 1911 and Carrigan applied the first filler coat on the same day. The second filler coat was applied by Smith on April 15th, 1911. The keel was "a" (ash?), the braces (thwarts?) were "m" (mahogany?), and the seats were "m" (mahogany?). It was railed by Farncll(?) on July 1st, 1911. The original paint color was "M Green" (meduim green?) and it was painted by Swett(?) on July 15th. It shipped to "W Phila"(the Wanamaker store in Philadelphia?) on July 18th, 1924. The original Kennebec records are stored at the Maine State Museum. I am unable to attach a scan of these records since their policies do not permit any electronic reproduction of their materials.

The microfilms of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA). I hope that you will join or contribute to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.html to join.

More information about this and other Kennebec models can be found in the Kennebec catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CD available from http://merchandise.wcha.org/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web.

There are many ways to remove fiberglass and most of them involve lots of water, heat, sharp metal objects, and patience. The thread at http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?t=539 has some good suggestions but feel free to use the forum search function to find others.

It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

Benson
 
It is also possible that you have the Kineo Special with the serial number 102172, especially if the number was stamped on the tag, where they usually omitted the leading "10" when they stamped the tag.

102172 is a 17' Kineo Special with sponsons that was built in February and March of 1929. It was originally painted green. It was shipped March 13, 1929 to location 29-108. It was returned April 1, 1930 by Waukesha Camp because the sponson paint cracked.
 
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