I acquired 2 canoes today, one is old town #116814 16 and I am wondering when it was built..the other I believe is a prior to 1920 old town as the stems have the stamped serial # but it has closed gunwales that are capped and rush cane seats ..can anyone tell me if it is an old town and when it was made? the serial # is 15225 16..thanks, Arthur ..
2 old towns
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The Old Town with serial number 116814 is a 16 foot long, CS (Common Sense or middle) grade, HW (Heavy Water) model with red Western cedar planking, open spruce gunwales, ash decks, ash trim, and a keel. It was built between December, 1935 and July, 1936. The original color was medium blue. It shipped on July 6th, 1936 to Center Harbor, New Hampshire.
The Old Town with serial number 15225 is also a 16 foot long, CS (Common Sense or middle) grade, HW (Heavy Water) model with red Western cedar planking, closed spruce gunwales, ash decks, ash trim, spruce (outside) finish rails, and a keel. It was built between late 1910 and May, 1911. The original color was dark blue. It shipped on May 23rd, 1911 to Center Harbor, New Hampshire.
Scans of these build records can be found by following the links at the thumbnail images attached below. These scans and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others as you probably know well. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if these descriptions don't match your canoes. The Kennebec and Carleton records for serial number 15225 do not show a 16 foot long canoe so yours is probably an Old Town. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
The Old Town with serial number 15225 is also a 16 foot long, CS (Common Sense or middle) grade, HW (Heavy Water) model with red Western cedar planking, closed spruce gunwales, ash decks, ash trim, spruce (outside) finish rails, and a keel. It was built between late 1910 and May, 1911. The original color was dark blue. It shipped on May 23rd, 1911 to Center Harbor, New Hampshire.
Scans of these build records can be found by following the links at the thumbnail images attached below. These scans and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others as you probably know well. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if these descriptions don't match your canoes. The Kennebec and Carleton records for serial number 15225 do not show a 16 foot long canoe so yours is probably an Old Town. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
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thanks, these are definately the right build sheets, I got them in ctr. harbor right near the camp..can you look up ser. #184367 for me as well? I was told it was a 16 foot guide model from the 60's or 70's..I am almost done restoring it..Benson Gray said:
Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
Old Town 184367 comes up as a 15 foot light-weight model canoe... so, if that doesn't seem right, you need to check the numbers again on both stems. This 15 footer was shipped 4-14-72 to No. Conway NH.
The scan of this record is attached below-- click on it to get a larger image. This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
Kathy
The scan of this record is attached below-- click on it to get a larger image. This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
Kathy
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Roundtable
Curious about Wooden Canoes
Build order and Bill of sale
Hey Benson,
I picked up the OT15225 from Art over the weekend. Was wondering if it was possible to get a clearer copy of the build order, and also if there was a way to get a copy of the original bill of sale... Thanks!
Hey Benson,
I picked up the OT15225 from Art over the weekend. Was wondering if it was possible to get a clearer copy of the build order, and also if there was a way to get a copy of the original bill of sale... Thanks!
Roundtable said:
None of us have a better copy of your build record. You can send $3 to Old Town for part number 01.1332.0100 as shown at http://oldtown.wcha.org/parts.html and they may be willing to make another copy of the original build record for you. I don't believe that the original bill of sale for each canoe sold in the past hundred years has been preserved. Please reply here if they are not able to satisfy your request. Thanks,
Benson
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