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" modified " 1928 OT model HW

Discussion in 'Open Forum' started by grant the ant, Apr 25, 2021.

  1. grant the ant

    grant the ant New Member

    I'm a little hesitant in posting this in that it doesn't adhere to the pure concept of a wood and canvas restoration.
    Back in the mid 70's , I picked up an Old Town HW #97067up in New Hampshire for $200. A really nice boat , paddled well , and was easy to portage .
    Through neglect over the years and having to store it outside though, everything started to fall apart . Canvas deteriorated , and I tried glassing it on existing planking , which was a mistake .
    It was relegated to upper level on a canoe / lumber rack as I spent my time abusing ABS boats in whitewater and exploratory wilderness camping
    About 10 years ago , actually made some inwales from spanish cedar which I fastened in to help the boat hold somewhat of a form , but this winter , a snow laden branch managed to find it's way right through the middle of the boat
    I do custom woodwork professionally , but have no interior space to set it up and work on it . Decks were gone , stem ends were gone. outwales rotten 2/3 of the ribs were either broken or dry rotted at the ends . Every restorer I called or emailed said it sounded like a complete rebuild , Minimum 3- $4000 and 3-4 year backlog
    So I decided on a modification . I built a temporary frame to true the boat up, and took out every other rib
    After steam bending ash to make the interior stems, I used the ribs that were still in place as a form to build a cedar strip canoe . ( This is where most of the readers probably freak out and want to throttle me ).
    Living in MD , generally the mid Atlntic winters are not too bad and I was able to get enough days where the temps were warm enough for the planking glue to set up . Now I am waiting for consistently warm weather for the fiber glassing.
    Unfortunately , the only things I was able to salvage from the old boat were the interior stem ends with the serial # and the diamond head seat and thwart bolts . The stem ends are being used in the structure of the new boat and I will be able to use some of the brass bolts.
    I am new to the forum and don't know if I can post pictures of the progress, but if not I can send to individual emails on request
    Thnks, Grant the ant
     
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  2. 1905Gerrish

    1905Gerrish LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Welcome Grant!

    Sounds like you are into this pretty deep. Good luck on the project.

    Zack
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2021
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    grant the ant

    grant the ant New Member

    Thanks Zach
    I really wish I could have kept more of the boat , but it was pretty much toast
    This weekend , I'm getting ready to glass it and then go through the whole refinish process on the inside
    My brother , in Portland ME has an old canoe which has been in the family for about 60 years . We believe it's an Old Town but can't find the ser# stamped in the interior stems . If he decides to recanvas and gunwale it , anybody you'd recommend in the NE?
    Thnks, Grant
     
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  4. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    I'm not Zach but the list at https://www.woodencanoe.org/builders-suppliers has a variety of restoration options in Maine and the rest of the world. Canoe restoration can be very personal so I would encourage your brother to contact several of these restorers and see which one he likes best. The suggestions at http://forums.wcha.org/index.php?threads/791/ may help uncover the serial number. Good luck,

    Benson
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2021
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    grant the ant

    grant the ant New Member

    Well the old 28 hw imitation has ben glassed and I'm getting ready to start building the seats . In general, what are the locations of the seats . Would like the distance from the center of each seat to the tip of the prow ( or end of the deck ) When the old seats and gunwales were compltely gone ,I had no idea what I would be doing at the present and didn't even think of noting the distance back from the bow and stern.
    Thnks, Grant the Ant
     

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