OT- build record request

Burton

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I have two OT canoes:
#1 is SR # 103338
#2 in SR # 167452
Would it be possible to obtain the build/shipping record for these canoes?
Thank you,
Burton
 
Burton,

Old Town #103338 was an 18-foot AA (or top) grade OTCA with open mahogany gunwales and a floor rack that was built in 1929 and shipped to an Appalachian Mountain Club camp in New Hampshire in 1930. The original colors are shown on the attached build record. It seems to have been gray with a black strip and a monogram. There was a record of two letters sent to Old Town that may indicate later owners. I've also attached that.

Old Town #167452 was a 16-foot OTCA built in 1958 and shipped to Greeley, Colorado, in 1959. It was originally dark green.

The scans of these records are attached below-- click on them to get a larger image. These scans and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you and anyone else reading this will join or renew membership in the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.

If you are selling your canoe and plan to use this build record information as part of an ad, please consider giving the WCHA credit for this information on eBay or craigslist or wherever your canoe is listed.

It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

Norm
 

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Burton,

Old Town #103338 was an 18-foot AA (or top) grade OTCA with open mahogany gunwales and a floor rack that was built in 1929 and shipped to an Appalachian Mountain Club camp in New Hampshire in 1930. The original colors are shown on the attached build record. It seems to have been gray with a black strip and a monogram. There was a record of two letters sent to Old Town that may indicate later owners. I've also attached that.

Old Town #167452 was a 16-foot OTCA built in 1958 and shipped to Greeley, Colorado, in 1959. It was originally dark green.

The scans of these records are attached below-- click on them to get a larger image. These scans and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you and anyone else reading this will join or renew membership in the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.

If you are selling your canoe and plan to use this build record information as part of an ad, please consider giving the WCHA credit for this information on eBay or craigslist or wherever your canoe is listed.

It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

Norm

Norm:
Thank you for such a quick reply. The information about canoe SR#103338 is correct-I bought it in 1974 with 4 broken ribs and rebuilt and recovered the canoe and stripped and varnished the bright work. The floor rack and all original hardware (diamond head bolts and bow and stern rings) are still present and in use. We moved to Calif in 1975 and then after retiring to Emmett, ID in 2010.

The other canoe must not be an OT. The serial number is correct (just rechecked it 167452), but it is not an OCTA model. More like a trapper or guide. I have no idea who the mfg. would be. I found it at a youth camp in Idelwield, CA. It is 16 ft. in length and was glassed instead of canvas for the outer skin. The end of the ribs are in very poor shape, but in the process of trying to restore it.

Again thanks for your help,
Burton
 
Burton,

I double-checked the database to make sure there weren't two build records for serial number 167452. There weren't. The person filling out the form may not have had all the info on your boat. That person didn't fill in the grade or quality of the canoe, which is uncommon. Also, your boat is 16-feet long and you found it in the West. Canoes usually don't wander very far.

If you have time, you might post some photos of the canoe here, especially the decks, the seats, and the lines of the canoe. Some of the experts on this forum might be able to help identify your canoe from the photos.

Norm
 
In 1957 Old Town changed the OTCA, they started building them on the Yankee form, I think, and changed the decks to the standard 16 inch ones.
 
Thanks Norm,
I am just getting ready (tomorrow) to varnish the bright work on the 103338 OCTA and will send you some pics of it. The other one is currently on a rack in the barn and has had all of the seats, braces and bright work (gunnels, decks, etc) removed. The shape would still be there, however. As I recall the seats and decks were styled and shaped just like the older OT seats and the newer decks.
Regards,
Burton
 
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