Old Town S#148782 18

[dugkim]

I am considering buying this canoe and am wondering if anyone has any information about it. Your help is appreciated.

p.s. I have just joined the WCHA!

 

[Ric Altfather]

Ot 148782

Dugkim,

First of all, thanks for joining the WCHA!

The canoe you inquire about was shipped on March 1, 1948 to Detroit, Michigan. It was built as an 18' Guide model in CS (common sense) grade with spruce gunwales, ash seats, thwarts and decks. I also had a keel installed and the original color was Guide Special Green. A build record is attached.

If you buy this canoe, this is the site for all of your restoration and repair advice and guidance.

Regards,

Ric Altfather

 

[dugkim]

Wow!

That was fast! Thanks so much and I will keep you all posted on the purchase. Thanks so much.

 

[dugkim]

Additional Question...

Dugkim,

First of all, thanks for joining the WCHA!

The canoe you inquire about was shipped on March 1, 1948 to Detroit, Michigan. It was built as an 18' Guide model in CS (common sense) grade with spruce gunwales, ash seats, thwarts and decks. I also had a keel installed and the original color was Guide Special Green. A build record is attached.

If you buy this canoe, this is the site for all of your restoration and repair advice and guidance.

Regards,

Ric Altfather

On the build sheet, it lists the Planking as "MC". What does this mean? Also, Is there a definition of terms you can point me to as well?

 

[Dan Miller]

On the build sheet, it lists the Planking as "MC". What does this mean?

MC stands for Maine cedar, or northern white cedar. The alternative would be western red cedar (WC).

Also, Is there a definition of terms you can point me to as well

Not yet, but feel free to post your unkown terms here, maybe we can use it to form the basis of a site glossary...

Cheers,
Dan

 

[dugkim]

Thanks Dan

Here are the terms that I am uncertain of, taken from the build sheet:

Decks
Thwarts
Half Ribs
Finish Rails
O.S. Stems
Floor Rack
Sponsons

 

[Benson Gray]

The definitions of most of these terms can be found in the diagram at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/specific.gif from an old catalog. The finish rails are also known as outside gunwales. O.S. stems are outside stems which are an extension of the keel to the decks. Sponsons are air chambers along the gunwales that provide extra flotation. More information like this can be found at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/ and in the Complete Old Town Canoe Company Catalog Collection CD available at http://merchandise.wcha.org/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web. The record for your canoe indicates that it did not originally not have half ribs, outside stems, a floor rack, or sponsons since there are no installation dates on those lines. Feel free to reply here if this doesn't answer your questions.

Benson

 

[dugkim]

Thanks

The definitions of most of these terms can be found in the diagram at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/specific.gif from an old catalog. The finish rails are also known as outside gunwales. O.S. stems are outside stems which are an extension of the keel to the decks. Sponsons are air chambers along the gunwales that provide extra flotation. More information like this can be found at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/ and in the Complete Old Town Canoe Company Catalog Collection CD available at http://merchandise.wcha.org/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web. The record for your canoe indicates that it did not originally not have half ribs, outside stems, a floor rack, or sponsons since there are no installation dates on those lines. Feel free to reply here if this doesn't answer your questions.

Benson

The diagram provided by your first link was exactly what I needed. Thanks so much.

 

[MikeCav]

Dugkim,
Welcome to a good group of folks. The speed and courtesy you experienced is pretty common here. Feel free to post questions as you get into your restoration. WHile there are many ways to do things in a canoe restoration, most of the folks here will steer you in the right general direction.

There are also some active folks in your area - start looking them up.

Mike

 

[dugkim]

Thanks Mike

Dugkim,
Welcome to a good group of folks. The speed and courtesy you experienced is pretty common here. Feel free to post questions as you get into your restoration. WHile there are many ways to do things in a canoe restoration, most of the folks here will steer you in the right general direction.

There are also some active folks in your area - start looking them up.

Mike

You can bet I will make every attempt at garnering the help I will no doubt need in restoring the canoe. I only hope the guy decides to sell it to me so that I can begin.