Old Town Build Record Request
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The Old Town canoe with serial number 4252 is a 17 foot long, AA (or top) grade, HW (heavy water) model that was billed as an IF (Indian Fishing) model with a keel, mahogany decks, mahogany thwarts, mahogany seats, closed spruce gunwales, a board backrest, and two spruce paddles that were five feet long. It was built between January and March, 1906. The original exterior paint color was dead grass with a "T" in a triangle on the right and left sides of the bow. It shipped on April 4th, 1906 to Concord, New Hampshire. A scan of this build record can be found below.
This scan and several hundred thousand more were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others as you probably know well. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will donate, join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See https://www.woodencanoe.org/about to learn more about the WCHA and https://www.woodencanoe.org/shop to donate or renew.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer this description doesn't match the canoe. Please post some more pictures. Feel free to reply if you have any other questions.
Benson
This scan and several hundred thousand more were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others as you probably know well. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will donate, join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See https://www.woodencanoe.org/about to learn more about the WCHA and https://www.woodencanoe.org/shop to donate or renew.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer this description doesn't match the canoe. Please post some more pictures. Feel free to reply if you have any other questions.
Benson
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Dave Osborn
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Todd,
The color is Dead Grass, I think.
The color is Dead Grass, I think.
MGC
Scrapmaker
Old Town colors, always a popular topic.
Dead grass? Shall I attach images of my lawn?
Here are the various available OT color charts with some of the different years displayed next to each other to highlight the variability.
forums.wcha.org
If you head down the Kirby path, keep in mind that for custom colors, they file by the name of the person who ordered it, not by color or hull that it is destined for.
Dead grass? Shall I attach images of my lawn?
Here are the various available OT color charts with some of the different years displayed next to each other to highlight the variability.
Old Town color chart circa 1920
Well, eBay has proven me wrong again. People have been asking about the exact colors used on their Old Town canoes for years and I have been advising them to pick a color that they like since no one will probably ever know what precise shade was originally used. The undated Old Town Canoe...
If you head down the Kirby path, keep in mind that for custom colors, they file by the name of the person who ordered it, not by color or hull that it is destined for.
Todd F
Lifetime Member
I have been in contact with some folks at the original school it was delivered to. While it may take a while to get to this restoration the school is looking to have some underclass students do a project to see if there are any relatives of the original student, will restore it and donate it to the school for a historic display. When I get to it I know I will need advice on revealing the dead grass color etc.
MGC
Scrapmaker
These are the best Old Towns. The shape of the hull had not been flattened yet so they are excellent paddling canoes.
As a waterfowl hunter, the color dead grass green is one I have painted on my duck boats. It resembles a brown color more than green. You might find a patch of that color under the keel.
Look at the OT Green chart I attached (#8) in the related 2011 color discussion. That's pretty much the color, more brown than green.
As a waterfowl hunter, the color dead grass green is one I have painted on my duck boats. It resembles a brown color more than green. You might find a patch of that color under the keel.
Look at the OT Green chart I attached (#8) in the related 2011 color discussion. That's pretty much the color, more brown than green.
Todd F
Lifetime Member
well, well, well, I want to pick your mind! Stern stem is the shape of a few s's but not TOO bad. looks like 4 broken ribs but maybe some plank repairs. over all not bad. tips of the spruce gunnels 2-3 inches are gone. missing at least one and probably 2 thwarts. Might be copper tacks, lots of them. Look forward to seeing what others think and recommend
It was not unusual to substitute a similar model if the customer ordered one that wasn't in stock. This canoe was made on the HW form but was billed and delivered in place of an IF (a.k.a. Guide) model that was ordered. Let me know if this isn't clear.
Benson
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