Old Town 82092 17 history


David Parmelee
Just acquired a wood and canvas 17' #82092 17 that I believe is a 1924 Otca. How much can be learned about construction materials? It has a terrible blue paint job. Can I find original color? What is the best source of info for restoration, espcially the canvas? the interor is in surprisingly good shape, so I may not mess with it--but the paint must go. If it looks good, is it likely to be usable for calm river and lake trips? Thank you!

David Parmelee, Pennsylvania
The Old Town canoe with serial number 82092 is a 17 foot long, AA grade, Otca model with red Western cedar planking, open mahogany gunwales, twenty inch mahogany decks, and mahogany trim. It was built between December, 1923 and May, 1924. The original exterior paint color was similar to the image shown at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/designs/design02.gif which was known as design number 2. It was shipped on May 10th, 1924 to Washington, D. C. A scan of this build record can be found by following the link at the attached thumbnail image below.

This scan and several hundred thousand more were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.html to join.

The best sources for restoration information would from http://virtualbooks.wcha.org/ for a book, a local restorer as listed at http://www.wcha.org/buildsupply/ by geography, a local WCHA chapter from the list at http://www.wcha.org/chapters/ or right here in the forums. I would encourage you to test it out to see if it leaks badly. A new coat of paint may be all that you need if it doesn't leak too much and the current exterior surface is reasonably smooth.

It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.



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Sincere thanks to Benson Gray!

I had no idea I would receive such an immediate and authoritative reply! Many, many thanks, especially for the build order.

This canoe appears serviceable. 2 or 3 small repairs were made to the ribs long ago, and the decks and gunwales are in good condtion though the finish is quite worn. Finish inside of hull is good. Restoration of the wood surfaces would no doubt be a satisfying project, though I think optional. The hull demands a refinish--just too ugly and badly painted. Once the new paint is off, perhaps the old design #2 is still there--or can at least be re-created. This boat has truly captured my interest.

How valuable this group is!

Thanks again
David Parmelee

Thanks for contacting the WCHA...I believe you already see the value!

Yes, Benson is good and I believe he has a built in sensor for inquiries like yours...he sure beats the rest of us that help out.

All the best and good luck with your new found friend!

Ric Altfather
Ric Altfather said:
I believe he has a built in sensor for inquiries like yours.

Actually there is no magic here, all of the webmasters get an electronic mail message whenever a message is posted in these forums. This is the only way that we can delete the spam and other junk before it starts upsetting everyone else. You should be able to add this feature by subscribing to the forums under the UserCP link in the title bar.

Joined up!

I joined the WCHA right away. Also, I put the Otca in the water on Friday. Lo and behold, "she's seaworthy," does not appear to leak at all, tracks beautifully, and is otherwise A-OK. Nice, eh?
Thanks for joining - you will find that this is a great group of people. Make sure to journey up to Keuka for the 2007 Assembly - a few hundred beautiful boats and an equal number of crazy people!:rolleyes: