Octa ? 17 98965 Serial Number Help

Wood&Canvas

Curious about Wooden Canoes
I'm working on a canoe w/my son-in-law and the serial number is 17 98965. I believe that it's an Octa but am unsure. It does have long decks. Any help in getting the history on this serial number would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Wood&Canvas
 
Well, we may have to do a bit more research. 98965 shows up on a 17' HW Model in AA (fancy) grade with mahogany gunwales, seats, decks and thwarts. It had half ribs sponsons and a keel. It was painted Dark Green and shipped with a floor rack to Alexia IL in June of 1929. A copy of the build record is attached.

While long decks were most common on Otcas, they do occasionally show up as special orders on other models, though the build records will usually note the 20" decks as an option.

So, a couple of possibilities to consider.

1 - The serial number you posted is not correct. They are sometimes hard to read on an older boat. Check both stems and consider other possible numbers.
Make sure the boat you have matches the description in the record. The floor rack and keel may have disappeared over the years, but the screw holes down the center of the ribs would still show. Same thing with the Sponsons -people sometimes removed them, but a row of screw holes in the ribs about 4" down from the inwale will give it away. The half ribs are usually left in place (in fact - pretty hard to remove!)

2 - The long deck was added later, perhaps in a earlier restoration. Does it have a combing?

3 - Not an Old Town? Though the number sequence looks right, it could be a boat from another builder.

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It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
 

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Mike,

Please note the serial number correction. We pulled it out, set it upright and read the numbers on both stems. Long decks look original and it does have a combing.

Thanks,
Wood&Canvas
 
That's better

98656 is on a 17' AA grade Otca with mahogany gunwales, decks thearts and seats. It had a keel and floor rack installed. It was painted design #16 and shipped to Pleasant Valley NY in July of 1929. A copy of the build record and the design 16 is below.
 

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