Morris stem bands

knubud

Wooden Canoeist
Just bought an almost complete Morris with original(?) canvas and riveted stem bands. The brass plate on the stem is 9605 - early1913 per Kathy's book. What is the best way /is there a best way to remove the riveted stem bands for new canvas??
 
Knubud,
Zack is correct. Drill into the end of the rivet to remove what is peened over and then drive out the rivet with a punch. Save the copper washers that are on the inside for re-use. Unless the stem bands are in very nice shape it may be easier to break them off and install new ones when you get to that point. The old bands, when you try to reinstall them, may still not fit just right with the holes in the wood stems and the holes in the bands not aligning correctly due to the slight difference in thickness of the canvas, filler and paint. An exercise in futility. On the canoe I finished in May the stem bands were already broken so the decision was easy.
Good luck and have fun.
Jim C.
 
Jim - here you go. Thanks for your reply/
LAter-Bud
 

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Oh my, Oh dear, Good grief. When you started out with a thread concerning the stem bands I was not expecting the canoe to be covered in green paint. It also needs at least one of the inwales repaired judging by the crack behind the stern seat visible in your third picture. Gunwale caps also are broken in the same area. More wood repairs will likely appear when the canvas is removed and the paint stripped. Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to discourage you, this canoe is certainly worth restoring and will be a stunner when done. It has been said before that if you want a quality restoration you have to start out with a quality canoe. Morris canoe are certainly that. They were well made with good materials, quality workmanship and they paddle well to boot.

Because you are in Maryland I would suggest you hook up with the Upper Chesapeake Chapter of the WCHA. Maybe you can meet with a member or two in your area and formulate a game plan on the best way to move forward – assuming of course that this is your first canoe project. There are a couple restoration books in the WCHA store that should be read before you start out as well.

Good luck and enjoy the process.

Jim
 
I'm the head of the Upper Chesapeake Chapter and a long time member of the WCHA. Have done several Morris canoes but this one is the most complete one I have seen. Already almost done with a gallon of stripper! And looking for spruce for one new inwale.

Bud
 
I didn’t know I was preaching to the choir! You already know what you are doing so I’ll shut up now. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
 
Stem bands have been removed - using the method that Zack and Jim stated. Once the process was started and figured out - after a few goofs - it was actually fairly simple. One stem band was already broken and the other came apart as we progressed but it worked! Thanks guys!

LAter-Bud
 
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