M Grallert
Trout Whisperer
This one I found Hanging in a cellar.
The # is 13914 17.Thank you so much for help with an ID.
Peace
Matthew
The # is 13914 17.Thank you so much for help with an ID.
Peace
Matthew
Here's another old Old Town
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Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
Hi Matthew,
Check the numbers again (both stems), as 13914 comes up as an 18 foot CS grade IF (ideal fisherman) model shipped in 1910, not a 17 footer.
Kathy
Check the numbers again (both stems), as 13914 comes up as an 18 foot CS grade IF (ideal fisherman) model shipped in 1910, not a 17 footer.
Kathy
If this canoe has closed gunwales, half ribs and outside stems then it may be the Carleton canoe with serial number 13914. This is a 17 foot long, CS (Common Sense or middle) grade, Carleton model with red western cedar planking, closed spruce gunwales, maple decks, maple trim, half ribs, a keel, and outside stems. It was built between April and May, 1919. The original exterior paint color was brown. It shipped on May 14th, 1919 to Springfield, Mass. A scan of this build record can be found by following the link under the thumbnail image attached below.
This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to join.
More information about this Carleton models can be found in the Carleton catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CDs. Both of these are available from http://www.wcha.org/catalog/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to join.
More information about this Carleton models can be found in the Carleton catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CDs. Both of these are available from http://www.wcha.org/catalog/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
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Here are some pictures I took of this boat. As is apparent it has been glassed and the gunwales were removed. The glass seems to come very easily. The glass covered the keel and the outer stems.
Thank you for the reply.
Peace
Matthew
Here are some pictures I took of this boat. As is apparent it has been glassed and the gunwales were removed. The glass seems to come very easily. The glass covered the keel and the outer stems.
Thank you for the reply.
Peace
Matthew
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It looks like this canoe matches the Carleton build record to me. Good luck with the restoration,
Benson
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Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
Glad the glass is coming off easily, Matthew-- looks like the canoe was being taken-over by the Pods from Outer Space. Glad you rescued her before she lost her ability to produce emotions!
Here's another
Matthew,
It looks like a Carleton to me, too. If the decks have a little cut-out on the underside, that would be a good indication. The Carleton decks are heart shaped. I can't see the gunwale in these pictures, but the little bit I can see suggests a closed gunwale. And as Benson mentioned, it has half ribs.
I'll attach a picture of a Carleton deck.
You might find this hull shape as exciting as that 1917 Old Town Ideal that you've got.
Norm
Matthew,
It looks like a Carleton to me, too. If the decks have a little cut-out on the underside, that would be a good indication. The Carleton decks are heart shaped. I can't see the gunwale in these pictures, but the little bit I can see suggests a closed gunwale. And as Benson mentioned, it has half ribs.
I'll attach a picture of a Carleton deck.
You might find this hull shape as exciting as that 1917 Old Town Ideal that you've got.
Norm
