16' Old Town serial number search

bobg

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I have a 16' Old Town with the serial number of 11830. My dad said it is a Guide model, but I would like to get more information if it is available.
 
Welcome and congratulations, the Old Town canoe with serial number 11830 is a 16 foot long, CS (common sense or middle) grade Charles River model with red Western cedar planking, closed spruce double gunwales, spruce decks, spruce thwarts, spruce seats, and a keel. It was built between September, 1909 and February, 1910. The original exterior paint color was dark red. It shipped on February 23rd, 1910 to Rochester, New York. A scan showing this build record can be found below.

This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will donate, join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/about-wcha to learn more about the WCHA and https://www.woodencanoe.org/pricing-plans/join to donate or renew.

It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer this description doesn't match the canoe. It is not unusual for an old low five digit serial number like this to have a hidden digit. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

Benson



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Benson, Thank you so much for this... Wow 1909... I think my next step is to figure out how to get the fiberglass shell off of it and work on getting back to the original canvas
 
Hi Bob - if you post some photos here you can get confirmation on the type and year canoe you have. If you search these forums you'll find countless examples of serial number mistakes. The canoe in the build record above is very different from a Guide model, and it has a variety of features that can help confirm if this is yours or not. A 1909 double-gunwale Charles River is very distinctive and we can help you confirm if this is what you have. In any case, enjoy your canoe!
 
How common are spruce double gunwales?

The double mahogany gunwale canoes are rare and the double spruce ones show up even less frequently. Gil Cramer mentioned one that was listed as a "1914 17' Old Town double gunnel sailing canoe with long decks" on Facebook Marketplace in Greenville, Ohio during July, 2022. Another is in the first link below. I don't recall ever seeing one in person or in good pictures. The second link below shows the mahogany version. It would be great if we could see some pictures of the spruce version as Michael suggested.

Benson




 
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Benson, Thank you so much for this... Wow 1909... I think my next step is to figure out how to get the fiberglass shell off of it and work on getting back to the original canvas
Bob, a heat gun and a painter's 5-way tool will allow you to soften the resin and pull the fiberglass off in strips of several inches wide or even more. Start at a weak point in the glass along an edge and work from there. Use a respirator and/or do it outdoors -- the process can release nasty fumes. Took 6.5 hours to do it on my 16' Old Town.
If you can post some pictures, I'm sure members with more experience than me can provide advice/tips.
Good luck!
Bob S
 
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