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Chestnut Prospector paint colors

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by fjalt, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. fjalt

    fjalt Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Is there an official Chestnut red paint or will any red be adequate for a restoration. Also, what type of paint, how much and where to order. thanks
     
  2. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Prospector Red

    fjalt:

    I have a red Prospector. You probably want to use a good marine topside enamel paint. Although, porch and floor enamel and rust-o-leum like enamels work well too. I used Kirby's No. 24 "RED" on mine. Interlux makes a Fire Red that is a good choice too.

    I'm not sure where you are at for shipping etc., but Kirby's has a website (google Kirby's paint), and Interlux can be found at a good marine supply shop.

    I typically use two coats of a high build primer and then two coats of paint, sanding between all of these coats, and a quart of the color stuff usually is enough.
     

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  3. OP
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    fjalt

    fjalt Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Prospector Red

    thanks Fitz, I'll check it out. Fred
     
  4. Douglas Ingram

    Douglas Ingram Red River Canoe & Paddle

    I've got the paint mix formula for the Chestnut Red. I'll copy it out when I go back into the shop Monday.

    I have it for the Chestnut green, too.
     
  5. Ed Moses

    Ed Moses LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Chestnut Green

    Doug,

    I would be very interested in that paint formula for chestnut green. I will be painting new canvas on my Chestnut Doe soon and do not want to do it in red, its original color. I have several Old Town models and they are all OT Guide Green. If the original Chestnut green is a different shade, that might add a nice bit of variety.

    Ed
     
  6. shelldrake

    shelldrake LOVES Wooden Canoes

    If you can come up with a sample, Kirby paint will match it. They matched The old Pettit Shipendec Rich Blue for my recent project and did an excellent job. Also a great company to deal with.

    Matt
     
  7. OP
    OP
    fjalt

    fjalt Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Prospector paint

    Great, I'd like to see the formula for the red and the green. I might go with the green since my girlfriend feels that will match our livingroom decor better, I hang my canoes from the ceiling like a piece of fine art.
     
  8. Blue Viking

    Blue Viking Wooden Canoe Maniac

    Awhile ago, someone posted a picture of an original sage green paint used for Chestnut canoes....I tried to match that color but the photo was not that good so I went with what they came up with....I would love to be included in that list of interested people, for mine....As for the 18 OGL I used an Olive Green farm equiment paint from the Tractor Supply Store...slight gloss....
    Thanks,
    BV
     
  9. Giiwedin

    Giiwedin Gouvernail

    Every few years this topic comes up. The best discussion was lost in the 2004 server crash, but here is a more recent one that may be helpful. The Chestnut "green" (different shades depending on year) is dramatically different from OT green.

    http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?t=340&highlight=Gray+Green

    In my time up north, all the Chestnuts I encountered at HBCo posts and Indian settlements were gray. Never came across one even remotely green, so perhaps that color was a later addition. A look at the 1968-72 catalogs will tell.

    Here are shots of our gray Prospectors in 1965: Churchill River, Methye Portage and Lake Winnipeg (Saskatchewan and Manitoba)
     

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  10. OP
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    fjalt

    fjalt Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Chestnut color

    Wow, I never thought that the color green would look like that. I was imagining a deep forest green, but I kind of like it, its certainly different from canoe colors that I've seen before.
    I want to restore this canoe as close to original as possible, that's why I've decided to put the shoe keel back on and paint it red, since that was the original color. I've also decided to put the original slat seats back into her instead of cane.
     
  11. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Green

    We found some remnants of paint on a mid-60's Chestnut Ogilvy we are rehabbing right now. I would call that color more of an "olive green".
     
  12. JPembleton

    JPembleton Chest Nut

    late 70's Chestnut Ogilvy

    Here is an Ogilvy with it's original green. Imagine it with out the dust :).

    [​IMG]

    Jamie
     
  13. Ed Moses

    Ed Moses LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Chestnut Green

    Fitz,

    Could you bring that original Chestnut green colored swatch of canvas from the ogilvy to our chapter meeting this Sun. I would like to see & photo it. Thanx

    Ed
     
  14. Ed Moses

    Ed Moses LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Chestnut Green

    Fitz,

    OOOPS, just reread your post and you did not mention canvas, I just assumed. Might it be just paint on wood.? Anyway if it has been removed, and its not an 18' outwale :D , please bring it along. Orrrr I could stop by your place on my return trip if Bill Clements who is riding with me isn't in a hurry to get home.

    Ed
     
  15. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    OOps

    Hi Ed:

    Unfortunately, the color was on the underside of a piece of the outwale and unless a piece is still kicking around Steve's shop, the old rails went out in the trash.

    The color was very close to the picture posted by Doug Ingram in this thread. The olive green spilled on the side of the can.

    http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?t=2160&highlight=Chestnut+Paint
     
  16. Larry Meyer

    Larry Meyer Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    This is my Prospector with Interlux Malachy green and a shellac bottom. It gets some compliments.
     

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  17. Kathryn Klos

    Kathryn Klos squirrel whisperer

    Pretty canoe, Larry. Nice to see two-tones on a Prospector!
     
  18. OP
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    fjalt

    fjalt Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Prospector paint formulas

    Douglas Ingram was gracious enough to give me the paint formulas for the prospector canoe. I thought some of you might also be interested in the original colors. Here is the red:

    Using CIL base 337260 3.41can
    BLK 0p8
    LFY 2p0
    FFR 9p0
    WHT 0p20


    It is important to use a deep grey or red primer for best coverage.

    Here is the green:

    CIL base #337290, use in the 41 pail

    BLK 0p58
    YOX 3p2
    TBL 0P42
    WHT 4p12


    Hope this helps. I believe there were other colors but these formulas are for the red and light sage green.
     
  19. Blue Viking

    Blue Viking Wooden Canoe Maniac

    On my 16 I went with a sage green that I had mixed from a pic of an original paint can with some dried paint on the side...and with the Ogilvy, I went with an olive green from the Tractor Supply store....Works for me:)
     

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  20. OP
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    fjalt

    fjalt Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Looks good

    Whatever floats your boat! The choice of paint is really a small matter but I happen to be a stickler for historical detail and wanted the original paint formula. Its a curse that I was born with.
    I really don't care is someone paints their canoe purple, America is still partially free.
    I think the colors you chose look just fine but for those who want the original paint formula, I thought that this information would be helpful.
     

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