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Biff
Old Town 16' #5558 / Old Town 16' #176092 / Kennebec torpedo 17' #17905
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Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
I'll post the Old Towns one-atta-time-- I don't have the Kennebec records-- Benson will jump in for that.
Old Town 5558 is a 16 foot CS (common sense, or middle) grade Charles River model canoe. It has a keel, ash decks, thwarts, and seat frames, and closed spruce gunwales. Originally, it was dark green. It was ordered with two flagpole sockets and two slat backs, and was shipped to Windsor, Connecticut, April 8, 1907. An inquiry was made in regard to this canoe on June 8, 1981, from someone in Manchester, Connecticut.
The scan of this record is attached below-- click on it to get a larger image. This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you and anyone else reading this will join or renew membership in the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Kathy
Old Town 5558 is a 16 foot CS (common sense, or middle) grade Charles River model canoe. It has a keel, ash decks, thwarts, and seat frames, and closed spruce gunwales. Originally, it was dark green. It was ordered with two flagpole sockets and two slat backs, and was shipped to Windsor, Connecticut, April 8, 1907. An inquiry was made in regard to this canoe on June 8, 1981, from someone in Manchester, Connecticut.
The scan of this record is attached below-- click on it to get a larger image. This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you and anyone else reading this will join or renew membership in the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Kathy
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Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
Old Town 176092 is a 16 foot double ended boat finished April-->June of 1966. It has a keel, outside stems, a floor rack and row locks. It was painted maroon and shipped to Miner's Marine Basin in Ashland, New Hampshire, on July 5, 1966.
The scan of this record is attached below-- click on it to get a larger image. I won't repeat the rest of the message... see above for that!
Kathy
The scan of this record is attached below-- click on it to get a larger image. I won't repeat the rest of the message... see above for that!
Kathy
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The Kennebec canoe with serial number 17905 is shown on page 286 of volume three in the Kennebec ledgers. This was assigned to a 17 foot long Katahdin model type A. It was planked by Morgan on May 24th, 1924. The canvas covering was put on by Tuttle on May 31st, 1924. The first filler coat was applied by Leonard on the same day. Leonard applied the second filler coat on June 14th, 1924. It was railed by Mansell on June 21st, 1924. The original paint color was red with a gold arrow. It shipped on July 12th, 1924 to location "24-724". This location is probably an order number but we don't currently have enough information to identify it.
The scans of these build records can be found by following the links at the attached thumbnail images below. These original Kennebec records are reproduced through the courtesy of the Maine State Museum.
The microfilms and scans of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) as you probably know well by now. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to join.
More information about this and other Kennebec models can be found in the Kennebec catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CDs available from http://www.wcha.org/catalog/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web. This is the source of the attached catalog page below that shows what your canoe probably looked like originally.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
The scans of these build records can be found by following the links at the attached thumbnail images below. These original Kennebec records are reproduced through the courtesy of the Maine State Museum.
The microfilms and scans of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) as you probably know well by now. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to join.
More information about this and other Kennebec models can be found in the Kennebec catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CDs available from http://www.wcha.org/catalog/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web. This is the source of the attached catalog page below that shows what your canoe probably looked like originally.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
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Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
The Kennebec would be similar to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/user/kkloskk...5STttcdKGqlUxHvZqQJLKKKEY9#p/u/61/wbCaP7eJegY
http://www.youtube.com/user/kkloskk...5STttcdKGqlUxHvZqQJLKKKEY9#p/u/61/wbCaP7eJegY
paddlefancy
Biff
Thank you for the help. My morris-s are # 3502 and 3520 oval type metal tag on inner rail.
They were bought at Johnsons Sporting Goods Boston Mass. #3502 has the sporting goods
decal and the morris decal. As far as I know they have always lived here in Hebron, NH on
Newfound Lake........biff
They were bought at Johnsons Sporting Goods Boston Mass. #3502 has the sporting goods
decal and the morris decal. As far as I know they have always lived here in Hebron, NH on
Newfound Lake........biff
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paddlefancy
Biff
Thanks so much, this is great. Wish you could help me with a couple of 1880s carriages I have........biff
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Kathryn Klos
squirrel whisperer
Hi Biff,
The 3XXX series Morris canoes are important, because we are seeing a construction change within this group. Please count the cant ribs and let me know if there are two pairs of cants or three.
For those who don't already know, the cants are those ribs waaaay up under the decks, that aren't full, steam-bent ribs, but are partial ribs that are canted into the stem.
Also, what are the lengths of the Morris canoes?
Wonderful that you know they were purchased from Johnson's and that both decals are present... can you post (or email me) a picture? Any sales receipts?
Your canoes possibly date from 1905. Our one piece of documentation shows canoe 1876 shipped June 1, 1903. The hulls that survived the Morris fire of December 15, 1919 were numbered in the 17XXX. Since "circa" means "around the time of", I've been comfortable saying our 3XXX canoe is "circa 1905".
Thanks for this information!
Kathy
kathrynklos@gmail.com
The 3XXX series Morris canoes are important, because we are seeing a construction change within this group. Please count the cant ribs and let me know if there are two pairs of cants or three.
For those who don't already know, the cants are those ribs waaaay up under the decks, that aren't full, steam-bent ribs, but are partial ribs that are canted into the stem.
Also, what are the lengths of the Morris canoes?
Wonderful that you know they were purchased from Johnson's and that both decals are present... can you post (or email me) a picture? Any sales receipts?
Your canoes possibly date from 1905. Our one piece of documentation shows canoe 1876 shipped June 1, 1903. The hulls that survived the Morris fire of December 15, 1919 were numbered in the 17XXX. Since "circa" means "around the time of", I've been comfortable saying our 3XXX canoe is "circa 1905".
Thanks for this information!
Kathy
kathrynklos@gmail.com
