**Old Town Design #4 dimensions**

Dear Benson,

I have (2) 17' OTCA's with original Design #4. Serial Numbers: 174300 (1965), and #179325 (1968). While this is a very limited time frame for comparison, here is what I have found: Both of these canoes have 29 Red and Blue large triangles bordering the gunwale on each side. This does not include the stem triangles which number 5 on each side of the stem. Each gunwale triangle measures 6 3/4" long, and 2 3/4" in vertical height. The small blue triangles which are in between the large ones mentioned are 3 1/2" long, 1 1/2" tall, and are 1" away from the edges of the large triangles. All large triangles (red and blue) touch ends, and the triangles are spaced evenly from one end of the canoe to the other where the gunwale meets the stem. The stem triangles are slightly smaller, and they wrap around the bang strip. These large triangles measure 5 1/4" long against the bang strip, and are 2 1/2" high. The small blue triangles inside the stem triangles measure 1 1/4" x 3/4" and also are 1" away from the edges of the Red and Blue triangles. The diamond on the end of the canoe where the gunwale meets the stem is 2 1/2" long vertically, and is 3/4" wide. The "eight pointed star" is 7 1/2" square, and is positioned square with the water line. My 1968 OTCA's canvas still shows the original pencil layout marks where the paint lines were followed. I am very sure that this is it's original canvas since the canoe was used very little, and every other sign of canvas workmanship, user abuse, and original owner story verifies this fact. By the way, the pencil mark layout for the triangles are not exactly the same length dimensions unto themselves. They do vary about 1/8" to 1/4" every now and then at random places along the canoe. I ran up to see Ralph Freese at Chicagoland Canoe Base and bought a copy of his Design #4 plan that he had taken off an 18' OTCA years ago. That canoe had large triangles which were 6" long and 2 1/4" tall. Ralph had counted 45 triangles per side(?) with 9 smaller triangles on each stem side which measured continually smaller as they followed the stem length to the bottom of the canoe. The canoe was no longer in his possession so I was limited to his plan, but all other dimensions for the diamond and the eight pointed star were identical to my 17' canoes.

I hope that this information helps some, and if I can ever figure out how to post pictures, I will include them also.

Thanks again for all your help and information along the way in this hobby that I have enjoyed for 40 some odd years!