AA Sail Kit


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I just picked up most of a AA Sail Kit, mahogany dagger boards w/hardware, non-adjustable dagger board thwart w/ hardware, and the mast/booms/sail assembly, again, with all lines and hardware. Sail is white and sky blue nylon. All components excellent, varnish very good, OT decals intact on all pieces, nylon excellent and hardly even soiled. No rudder and hardware, thought I would put it up on the For Sale section, just looking on guidance regarding asking $$$$. Thanks, Todd
It is not clear what you really have so some pictures and dimensions might help. Dagger boards (without a bolt hole and square tops) were only used on the fiberglass Wahoo model so they may have a limited market. Leeboards (with a bolt hole and rounded tops) were more common and can be used on any wooden canoe. I have never seen a "non-adjustable dagger board thwart" from Old Town so it may have been custom built and only fit one canoe. Old Town offered Dacron and cotton sails but I have never seen a nylon one from them unless you are using 'nylon' in the generic sense. Are the mast, boom, and yard wooden or aluminum and how long are they? This information can be used to calculate the size of the sail. Complete canoe sail rigs usually sell for several hundred dollars depending on a number of factors. They are very expensive to ship so the location is also important.

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As usual, Benson is a wealth of information regarding OT, shame on me for not posting a more comprehensive posting, the leeboard thwart is 35 inches in length for the short, beneath the gunwale piece, and 36.5 inches in lenght for the longer, over the top of the gunwale piece, and it fits inside the center of my 18' guide. The leeboards are about 44 inches long. The mast is about 102 inches long, the boom and yard are both about 149 inches long, and mast, boom, and yard are all made of spruce. The sail looks like nylon (or some kind of man-made fabric) to me, and there are like 10 inch long "stiffeners", sewn perpendicular into the "edge" of the sail. Sorry, I don't know how to put the pics in this posting, here are the direct links to the pics I just took, Todd

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I relly love the shape of the leeboards - very elegant. The sail is probably "Fleetboat". It's a soft grade of Dacron that was used for a lot of things over the years including many of the old Sunfish/Sailfish sails and a few obscure uses like dentist bibs and uniform smocks for burger joint employees. It's not as stable as modern sail Dacron, but it works decently.
My guess is that you have an early sail rig for an FG model like the one shown in the 1960s and 1970s catalog image below. The very long bolts and wide leeboard thwart were necessary for the special gunwales on this model. It would also have orginally included a mast support thwart and step. The chart at http://forums.wcha.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1064&d=1136757320 indicates that you have a 65 square foot sail. The "stiffeners" are known as battens and would usually be 15 inches long in the middle and 12 inches long on each side. An Old Town sail from this era would usually have an identification tag along the bottom edge. That leeboard shape was first shown in the 1932 catalog.

A similar rig sold recently on eBay at http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ200233803774QQ for $300 or you might get more by selling the parts individually.



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I am interested in buying all or part of that rig.

Please contact me an let me know how much you would like to get
Thanks for the info Benson, yes, I believe you are correct, the bolts are very long, and not threaded sufficiently close to the head to allow full clamping onto the gunwales, I can see how this rig would fit properly onto one of those 1970s FG boats with the heavy on piece gunwale/deck moldings. Thanks again! Todd