Got a picture showing a Carleton in side view?

[Howie]

I've got a 15' 1922 Carleton that I've just started to work on. The stems are pretty well shot so I'll need to replace much of them. Can anyone provide me with a picture showing a side view of the stem area? I'd like to know whether...
1) The stem maintained a constant curving provide until it met the deck & gunnals... or if the stem's arc became straighter as it met the deck.
2) At what angle did the stem meet the deck.

When the wood you've got is rotted away it's hard to tell. And as they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.

Thanks!

 

[normsims]

Howie,

Here are two photos of the bow of my 1927 16-foot Carleton. I have more images if you need a slightly different angle.

Norm

 

[Benson Gray]

The stems in a 1922 Carleton should be identical to a similar vintage Old Town. The information and pictures of my 15 foot long HW from 1919 at http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?3815-Old-Town-Circa-1940&p=19434#post19434 and http://forums.wcha.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6016&d=1221400552 may also help. Good luck,

Benson

 

[Howie]

That's perfect. Thanks!
Wait - on 2nd thought... how about a pic showing the top of the deck & inwale area near the stem. I'm not sure how tapered the inwale tips were.

 

[Benson Gray]

how about a pic showing the top of the deck & inwale area near the stem. I'm not sure how tapered the inwale tips were.

The image at http://forums.wcha.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6027&d=1221415204 in the previous thread shows this from a 15 foot fifty pound model from 1914. Yours were probably similar.

Benson

 

[Howie]

Perfect. Thank you all.

 

[normsims]

Howie,

Here's a picture of my 1927 Carleton deck.

Norm

 

[Howie]

Thanks. Interesting... Yours has the Old Town style star-head bolts, where with mine the screw holes are covered with a plug of wood.

 

[normsims]

Howie,

Yeah, that was confusing when I first saw the boat as a hull. It clearly was not an Old Town, but it had diamond-head bolts and a serial number in the right place. After about 1910, the Carletons were built in the Old Town factory and shared a lot of hardware. The carry thwart really helped identify it as a Carleton.

Norm

 

[Benson Gray]

Yours has the Old Town style star-head bolts, where with mine the screw holes are covered with a plug of wood.

Yes, yours is from 1922 which is before Old Town and Carleton started using the diamond headed bolts. Norm's is from 1927 and the transition appears to have been around 1923 for CS grade canoes. Better late than never?

Benson