13' Tremblay Covered with Dacron

Howie

Wooden Canoes are in the Blood
I'm sure some of you will think I've gone over to the dark side, but I decided to try using Dacron on the 13' Tremblay I picked up late last year. And I have to say I like the results so far.

As some of you might know, Tremblay's were covered in Verolite, which is/was a PVC-impregnated canvas. This stuff was quite a bit lighter in weight than traditional filled canvas - the canoe weighed 50# when I got it - but unfortunately it prematurely developed cracks, which allowed water to seep in, which promoted rot on the planking. Happily my canoe was (I was told) only used a few times then stored in an enclosed area for 30+ years, so although the Verolite had a ton of cracks there was zero wood rot. I wanted a very light weight canoe, so this Tremblay fit the bill. But given the problem with Verolite I figured I'd give Dacron a try to see if I could come close to the canoe's 50# weight.

I used 3.7oz Dacron. It's super thin - about 0.005" (vs ~0.028" for the #12 canvas I normally use), so there's no hiding imperfections in the hull or proud tack heads. I found the Dacron to be extremely strong - you can't rip it by hand, and rips don't propagate. I closely followed instructions provided by Worth Gretter in his write-up APPLYING DACRON TO A CANOE.

And I very much like the results: the canoe now weighs all of 45#. Looking over my notes I see I restored a 13' Old Town '50 Pounder' with #12 canvas a while back, and it weighed 65#. 20#. That's a 30% reduction in weight. And I don't think anybody could tell that the canoe isn't covered with canvas just by looking at (but remember, this canoe's hull was in pristine shape when I got it).

O - sharp eyes may note that I added a keel to the canoe. For obvious reasons.

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Some notes:
* If you decide to use Dacron be sure you get the heat-shrinkable type and not 'sail-cloth'.
* I've been warned that paint may not stick well to Dacron, so I used Kilz Adhesion Interior Exterior Primer hoping it'd stick. It sure seemed to work. Time will tell...
* And apparently the UV in sunlight degrades Dacron, so some folks recommend using Rustoleum paint because it contains aluminum flakes. I didn't - I just used up whatever paint I had on hand as I'll be keeping the canoe stored in my garage.
* The stuff I used is extremely thin (~.005" vs ~.028" for #12 Duck) so any imperfections in the canoe's hull surface or proud tacks will be quite visible.
* And you have to be careful when sanding the primer and paint 'cause you don't want to damage the fibers. I hand-sanded with 250 & 400 grit.
* You have to be very careful not to exceed to exceed 375degF when shrinking the Dacron, else bad things will happen!
* I used heat activated tape to hold the Dacron in place prior to shrinking. But I also used stainless staples. I figure why not...

Here are some pics showing the wrinkles in the Dacron before I smoothed them out with a common cloths iron, and after.
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Looks great! I'm a fan of lightweight canoes, mine are 40 and 50 pounds and I think about SOF to go lighter.
 
Howie, don't give me credit for the Dacron write-up, I only posted it!

The post was:
Anybody ever use non-standard canvas thicknesses?
and the two attached documents were:
1) Dacron - A Canvas Alternative by Alex Combs of Stewart River Boatworks
2) Applying Dacron to a Canoe - Demonstration by the Upper Chesapeake Chapter at WCHA Assembly, 12 July 2017

So the credit goes to Alex Combs and to the WCHA Upper Chesapeake Chapter.

I haven't actually used Dacron myself but I'm getting ready to try it real soon!

And I have to add, your little red canoe looks just great!
 
Howie, did you use 2.7 per yard or 3.7 as you note? Where did you get it from? Wicks?
It looks like Worth used much heavier material.
 
Mike: My records of this are spotty, so I wrote to Larry LaLonde, owner of Geodesic Airolite Boats, as I bought the Dacron from him. Larry confirms that the material I used was indeed 3.7oz Dacron.

After reading Worth's excellent writeup I'm lerry of using Dacron much thicker than 3.7oz as the canoe's wood certainly does soak up heat and would make it difficult to get the fabric hot enough to contract.

I'm (almost) totally new at covering canoes with Dacron, but it seemed to me that the 3.7oz stuff I used was extremely strong and scratch resistant (damn... I should have saved some for you to look at), so I'm not sure thicker stuff is needed. I can see why Larry's Geodesic Airolite Boats would benefit with thicker material as the Dacron isn't backed by planking, thus something sharp might conceivably poke through. But that's much less the case with W/C canoes.
 
Got it. Thanks. I did not see that thickness listed on GAB's site.
Yes, 8 seems pretty thick...I will probably not use that. On the other hand, 2.7 is pretty thin so what you used might be perfect.
Lori tried to talk me into stopping by for the m&m guy... expect a visit one of these days.
 
Will do. No room for that thing in the Boxster.... we were in Canandaigua a couple days ago for lunch. It won't fit in the trunk, frunk or seats.
So if I understand correctly, you both got the material from GAB. I wonder if they send samples?
 
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I just wrote to him to see if he had more. If he does I'll buy some for the Veazie & give you a taste.
 
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