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old town serial request

Discussion in 'Serial Number Search' started by jonm, Apr 21, 2021.

  1. jonm

    jonm New Member

    Hello, I came across an Old Town war canoe serial # 185685, wondering if you can provide more information - What year was it built, history, any other details.
    Thank you so much for your help!
    Jon
     
  2. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    The Old Town canoe with serial number 185685 is a 34 foot long war canoe model with a keel and sponsons. It was built between December, 1970 and January, 1971. The original exterior was unpainted. It shipped on March 31st, 1971 to Kings Mills, Ohio. A scan showing this build record can be found below.

    This scan and several hundred thousand more were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others as you probably know well. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will donate, join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See https://www.woodencanoe.org/about to learn more about the WCHA and https://www.woodencanoe.org/shop to donate or join.

    It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match the canoe, although that seems unlikely in this case. The form for this canoe still exists as described at http://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/14373/ in more detail. I've also attached some images that probably show this canoe and others being built, shipped, and in use after delivery. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions. Thanks,

    Benson



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    jonm

    jonm New Member

    that was incredibly fast - Thank you so very much!
    how many of these were made?
     
  4. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    There were six on that truck load and I believe this was the complete order at that time. Only three have shown up in the database research described at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ which is too small a sample size for an accurate estimate. However, the approach used for the other estimates at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/models.html yields a guess of about 51 between 1906 and 1927 which is an average of around two per year. There are several known to have been built after 1927 including these six and another group that went to Disney but that isn't likely to change an estimate like this by much.

    Benson
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2021
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  5. MGC

    MGC Scrapmaker

    These were fiberglassed?
     
  6. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    Yes, apparently so. The others all had the same notation as shown below.

    Benson



    185681.jpg 185682.jpg 185683.jpg 185684.jpg 185686.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2021

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