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Next up, Beth

Discussion in 'Canoe Sailing' started by Andre Cloutier, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

    For my American friends, a strange item - Stanley 8m tape (26')
    seems the aussies are more metric than the Canadians, needed to buy a metric tape to decipher the plans. Odd that I've not needed one till now, even the trades are largely imperial.
    Photos attached, most have likely been seen before.
    Stay tuned...;)

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  2. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

  3. OP
    Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

    Pidgin Measurement

    Didnt know birds had a use for measuring. Wow, touchy subject. Is this the guy that spearheaded the drive to rename french fries Freedom fries?
    In case you missed it, I wasnt advocating we quit doing those loveable fractions, just showing y'all a weird tape.;) ;
    Dan, when you come to Killbear next year feel good that while we'd have to drive 833km to get to you, you only have to do 518 miles to get to us. Now if that isnt incentive enuf to show I dont know what is.
    Désirent ardemment les mesures impériales de phase!!
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2007
  4. pklonowski

    pklonowski Unrepentant Canoeist

    metric system

    Interesting rant the gentleman has, though he misses some rather salient points about the metric system. I won't go into them here (we can take it off line, if anyone cares), but this appears to me to have been written by someone who never really understood the topic upon which he expounds. The internet is a wonderful thing -- everyone can express their oprinions -- unfortunately, we're getting that "million monkeys typing out the works of Shakepeare" effect. There's a lot of "pseudo-science" out there, too; real scientists find great amusement in their rantings, but shudder when they realize that non-scientists who read that drivel may not realize that what they're reading is drivel.

    I, for one, rather enjoy the metric measurings in my shop. Try dividing 19&7/16" into 3 equal parts and you'll understand why! And I'm a State-sider!
  5. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    No harder than dividing 49.37125 cm into 3 equal parts... Don't need a calculator for either (though I should probably add the InchMate Pro calculator to the tool thread...!) :)

    And Andre, while you are reacquainting yourself with your meterstick, don't forget you have to build Beth upside down, after all, she's an Aussie design...
  6. pklonowski

    pklonowski Unrepentant Canoeist


    Wow, your meter stick can measure to 1/100000 of a centimeter??? I'm impressed...:D
  7. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    I use a fine ruler and a thick pencil...! But before coffee I just cut and paste from the conversion widget....

    Remember, boatbuilders shouldn't do math.
  8. john hupfield

    john hupfield fire starter/wood burner

    Well I use a metric Ruler when I get Metric plans from the 9/10 ofthe world that use them.Of course being a North American boatbuilder over the age of 40 with great respect for my Forebearers(not furbearers)I build and restore in good old Imperial measurements.
    Occasionally I have to use Cubits but there isn't much call for that these days.
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    Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

  10. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

  11. pklonowski

    pklonowski Unrepentant Canoeist


    So my Otca 17 is really an Otca 3.044776119 (in Smoots)? Cool!
  12. john hupfield

    john hupfield fire starter/wood burner

    I'll go with Smoots.Seems so uncomplicated.
    However since a Boatbuilders Math is all done on a tapemeasure or by fractions of a thumbnail I will need a roll up measureing tape in Smoots.
    Pray;Where do I find one,and,are they legal in Canada?
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    Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

  14. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    I realize that this has nothing to do with canoes but the list of unusual units of measurement includes my favorite, the Microfortnight from VMS. I worked in the VMS development group many years ago along with Stan Rabinowitz who wrote a very detailed response to another time question from a customer. HP now owns VMS and they still have his response posted at if you are curious.

  15. Jim Okkema

    Jim Okkema LOVES Wooden Canoes

    I have long thought we could have the best of both imperial (easy divisibility of 12) and metric (decimals instead of fractions) if we just went to a base 12 number system. How hard could that be?
    Of course I'd have to grow two additional fingers. :rolleyes:
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2011

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