Serial #108007 old town

[John Naylor]

Can someone send me a copy of the build record for ot #108007.....
Also, are canoes measured from deck tip to deck tip, or bow tip to stern tip ? Or a lil of both
a new wooden canoe friend has a descrepency w/ a kennebec length

 

[Greg Nolan]

The Old Town canoe with serial number 108007is an 18 foot long, CS (common sense or standard) grade HW (heavy water)Yankee model with red western cedar planking, open spruce gunwales and oak seats, decks and thwarts, and was equipped with a keel and sponsons. It was built between November 1930 and June 1931. The original exterior paint was done in design 34. It was shipped to Patten, Maine on June 29, 1939. Scans of this build record and paint design can be found by following the link behind the thumbnail images attached below.


This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/about-the-wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://store.wcha.org/WCHA-New-Membership.html to join.

It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.

Greg Nolan

 

[John Naylor]

Thanks greg ,
the current owner will love this info.! His dad brought it from maine , to south central pa, were it is now .the boat was "glassed " and painted..... It is very sea worthy , but can you tell us what fiberglassing does to the value( please be kind here , as tom only inheritaded it )

 

[Greg Nolan]

Most of us here prefer a canvas cover to fiberglass, and if the canoe were in need of restoration, most would recommend replacing the fiberglass with canvas.

But if the canoe is generally good shape -- good, sound wood, smooth glass -- few would recommend stripping the fiberglass off just to return the canoe to its original state of being covered by canvas.

As to impact on value --

How to value a canoe has many variables -- Without knowing the canoe’s overall condition and its location, for example, it is difficult to make any kind of comment. For a discussion of determining value, see the post at:
http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?57

See also: http://wcha.org/legacypages/catalogs/old-town/guide/

Canoes end up glassed because some people prefer it -- others won't touch such a canoe with a 10 foot pole, so among the other variables in valuing a canoe is the attitude of a potential buyer -- virtually impossible to determine in advance. But the canoe's present location oin Central PA would make it easier to sell than if it remained in distant Patten, Maine.

You may find these discussions of interest:
http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?9902-Fiberglass-question
http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?12167-Old-Town-Guide-16-restoration&highlight=keel

And as to measuring a canoe's length -- it is the distance between the extreme ends of the canoe -- usually points along the outside curve of the stems, where the stems curve back towards the interior of the canoe (as on Old Town's HW model), but sometimes the very tip of the stems, where there is no curve back. With the canoe on the ground, measure between two plumb, upright sticks placed on the ground outside the canoe touching the extreme end points of the canoe.

Greg

 

[John Naylor]

thanks so much Greg.... I'll pass this along.......