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All I can see is that it's Kennebec Canoe Company and the s/n is #14584. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kennebec Canoe I.D.
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The Kennebec canoe with serial number 14584 is shown on page 232 of volume two in the Kennebec ledgers. This was assigned to 17 foot long Torpedo model type A. It was planked by Lantigne(?) on August 18th, 1920. Roy canvased it on October 2nd, 1920. He applied the first filler coat on the November 30th, 1920. Grant applied the second filler coat on March 15th, 1924. Mansell added the rails on March 22nd, 1924. The original color was green. It shipped to location "24-121" on March 26th, 1924. This location is probably an order number but we don't currently have enough information to identify it.
The scans of this build record can be found by following the links at the attached thumbnail images below. These original Kennebec records are reproduced through the courtesy of the Maine State Museum.
The microfilms and scans of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) as you probably know well. I hope that you will renew your membership or contribute to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
More information about this and other Kennebec models can be found in the Kennebec catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CDs available from http://www.wcha.org/catalog/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match the canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
The scans of this build record can be found by following the links at the attached thumbnail images below. These original Kennebec records are reproduced through the courtesy of the Maine State Museum.
The microfilms and scans of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) as you probably know well. I hope that you will renew your membership or contribute to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.
More information about this and other Kennebec models can be found in the Kennebec catalogs contained on the Historic Wood Canoe and Boat Company Catalog Collection CDs available from http://www.wcha.org/catalog/ and http://www.dragonflycanoe.com/cdrom.htm on the web.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match the canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
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Value
Is ther eanyone that knows the estimated value on this 1924 Kennebec Torpedo. It looks to be in pretty good condition the cane needs to be replaced on the seats and the green canvas has area of wear. I did this query for a friend who found the canoe in an old barn. I am telling them not to restore anything until they can find out the value. I watch antiques roadshow a bit too much and so I am of the mindset that you shouldnt touch anything until you know if it will lessen the value. Anybody have any ideas of a ballpark value without restoration vs value of restoring but not professionally?
Is ther eanyone that knows the estimated value on this 1924 Kennebec Torpedo. It looks to be in pretty good condition the cane needs to be replaced on the seats and the green canvas has area of wear. I did this query for a friend who found the canoe in an old barn. I am telling them not to restore anything until they can find out the value. I watch antiques roadshow a bit too much and so I am of the mindset that you shouldnt touch anything until you know if it will lessen the value. Anybody have any ideas of a ballpark value without restoration vs value of restoring but not professionally?
Kathryn Klos
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There's a good discussion of value in our FAQs section, found here:
http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?t=57
Most of the people I know who are interested in old canoes would rather do the work themselves or hire someone they trust to do the work. Canoes appear on eBay and craigslist all the time which would have been "worth more" to a collector if someone hadn't worked on it simply to get it back into the water.
Canoes are a bit different from dining room tables... they can be more like antique cars, in that a meticulous restoration will make them more "valuable"... unless they are the oldest known Gerrish or something similar, which teaches us about canoe history if left alone.
A meticulous restoration involves knowing something about the canoe you are restoring-- the techniques used by the original builder. For instance, if your Kennebec has a copper stem band, you might want to restore that instead of replacing it with a new brass stem band. Accomplishing an accurate restoration on an old canoe can mean doing a lot of research ahead of time... and that's part of the fun.
Kathy
http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?t=57
Most of the people I know who are interested in old canoes would rather do the work themselves or hire someone they trust to do the work. Canoes appear on eBay and craigslist all the time which would have been "worth more" to a collector if someone hadn't worked on it simply to get it back into the water.
Canoes are a bit different from dining room tables... they can be more like antique cars, in that a meticulous restoration will make them more "valuable"... unless they are the oldest known Gerrish or something similar, which teaches us about canoe history if left alone.
A meticulous restoration involves knowing something about the canoe you are restoring-- the techniques used by the original builder. For instance, if your Kennebec has a copper stem band, you might want to restore that instead of replacing it with a new brass stem band. Accomplishing an accurate restoration on an old canoe can mean doing a lot of research ahead of time... and that's part of the fun.
Kathy
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Thanks to you both...it's awesome this kind of forum even exists!
