mark woodward
Curious about Wooden Canoes
I am having my canoe re-canvassed and the restorer thinks it is a Kennebec we found serial number 14205. Any help would be appreciated.
I am having my canoe re-canvassed and the restorer thinks it is a Kennebec we found serial number 14205. Any help would be appreciated.
- Thread starter mark woodward
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Welcome and congratulations, the Kennebec canoe with serial number 14205 is shown on page 201 of volume number two in the Kennebec ledgers. This was assigned to an 17 foot long Kennebec model. It was planked by E. Stackhouse on May 22nd, 1920. The canvas covering was added by Roy on June 12th, 1920 and he applied the first filler coat on the same day. He applied the second filler coat later that month. It was railed by Baxter on June 19th, 1920. The original color was green. It shipped to "Kaufman" on May 6th, 1920 (which is probably an error). The scans of these build records can be found below. These original Kennebec records are reproduced through the courtesy of the Maine State Museum.
The microfilms and scans of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA). A description of the project to preserve other records like these is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See https://www.woodencanoe.org/about to learn more about the WCHA and https://www.woodencanoe.org/shop to donate or join.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match the canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
The microfilms and scans of these records were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA). A description of the project to preserve other records like these is available at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ if you want more details. I hope that you will join or renew your membership to the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See https://www.woodencanoe.org/about to learn more about the WCHA and https://www.woodencanoe.org/shop to donate or join.
It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match the canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions.
Benson
mark woodward
Curious about Wooden Canoes
thank you,
Most interesting. we measured it to be 16ft. My father and grandfather always assumed it to be an. Old Town, where the man restoring it thinks it is a Kennebec. I will post more when I go back to see the progress.
Most interesting. we measured it to be 16ft. My father and grandfather always assumed it to be an. Old Town, where the man restoring it thinks it is a Kennebec. I will post more when I go back to see the progress.
The Old Town with serial number 14205 is 17 feet long with sponsons and closed gunwales. It shipped to Newport News, Virginia in 1910. This will look much different so some pictures could help. Good luck with the project,
Benson
Benson
mark woodward
Curious about Wooden Canoes
Michael Grace
Lifetime Member
The wide ("splayed)") stem and other features of your canoe suggests that it might be a B.N. Morris. Where did you see the serial number on the canoe? If a Kennebec it should be on a tag that says Kennebec. If an Old Town, it should be stamped into a stem that looks radically different from the stem in your canoe (square in cross section where it ends in the bottom of the canoe). If a Morris, it should be on a brass tag with nothing but the number stamped in it. Clearly #14205 in the Kennebec ledger doesn't match your canoe and the photos don't show an Old Town.
Morris history is a little complicated and interwoven with Kennebec and Old Town. See, for example:
forums.wcha.org
forums.wcha.org
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Morris history is a little complicated and interwoven with Kennebec and Old Town. See, for example:
New, old, B. N. Morris canoe that I found at a local auction.
Here is a nice canoe that I stumbled on at an antique auction in Brookfield, Massachusetts. I was there to bid on an Eli Terry wood movement tall case clock, and there under the tent was this canoe, which I couldn't immediately identify. I knew it had very distinctive features that I had read...
Morris records at Old Town and Kennebec
A small assortment of records for partial Morris canoe builds were discovered many years ago in the Old Town repair records. See http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/morris/records/ for more about this. Many of these appear to be partially completed canoes that were filled, railed, fitted, finished...
Kennebec Sponson...Need Help/Advice
I just purchased a Kennebec wood/canvas canoe with sponsons this week and am very excited to do some research on it. My family has a summer home in the Les Cheneaux Islands of the UP of Mich. I had admired this canoe my entire life as it hung upside down in the neighbors boat house for the past...
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I agree with Michael that you probably have a Morris and a picture of the tag would help. The information at the first link below shows some examples of similar Morris tags. The second link below indicates that a Morris with serial number 14205 might be from around 1916. Good luck with the rest of the restoration,
Benson
forums.wcha.org
woodencanoemuseum.org
Benson
How do I find a serial number on an old wooden canoe or boat?
Many old wooden canoes and boats have a serial number on both inside stems and a decal or tag with the manufacturer's logo on the bow deck. The number is usually stamped on the top of the lower part of the stems. The inside stems are the long curved pieces of wood that form the ends of the...
B. N. Morris | Wooden Canoe Museum
mark woodward
Curious about Wooden Canoes
Yes it has a small brass plate with number 14205. Thank you all I am convinced it is a Morris canoe.
mark woodward
Curious about Wooden Canoes
sorry for the poor image The boat is an hour away. Hopefully it will be finished in a couple of weeks and I will have better pics.
MGC
Scrapmaker
Your Morris with brass tag 14205 installed on the splayed cedar stem can be dated to circa 1916ish.
Read more about Morris (and wooden canoes) on the Wooden Canoe Museum website.
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Read more about Morris (and wooden canoes) on the Wooden Canoe Museum website.
