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Discussion in 'Wooden Canoe Journal' started by boatlab, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. boatlab

    boatlab New Member

    Build a one off cedar canvas canoe. Issue # 134 April 2006. Thanks!

    Mat Wingle
     
  2. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

  3. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    Matt

    Issue 134 is worth getting for Alex's article alone. The 'one off' is also referred to by some as an open form. I know of a builder who once lived in the Flint area who built 'open form'

    Brian Baker in Mid Michigan also built open form. Brian is selling his materials as he is retiring from building. He also made voyager canoes. I believe Busch gardens has his canoes. He says that he can modify to any length using the same form station molds simply by changing the distance between.
     
  4. john hupfield

    john hupfield fire starter/wood burner

    modify

    Tis true but of course tis not always good.Generally a longer hull needs more modification to retain its seaworthyness,though I imagine some cases do not matter overall.
    I think I found your paddle in a Beaverswamp north of Pointe aux Baril.
    John
     
  5. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    Hi John

    I am not sure but the paddle you found may not be mine. Unless it's a Shaw and Tenney Sassafrass with inlay and tied to a Rushton with gold leaf trim over dark green paint, strapped to the top of a Silver Cayenne with seven speed automatic transmission and leather interior. then, it might be mine.

    I don't recall the length range Brian said he made using the forms he had but I agree there are probably some limitations to the design.
     
  6. john hupfield

    john hupfield fire starter/wood burner

    length

    I think a variable of a foot or so on a broad beam canoe would likely make any practicable difference.I was taught however that stretching a mold really was not good design.John Winters wrote a whole book on the subject.It has a little math but so be it.
    I noticed the gold leaf but I'm afraid your car must have failed to make the trip.I'll look further offshore.
    John
     
  7. bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    if dave lost a shaw and tenny he doesn't deserve to get it back.:D
     
  8. Dan Lindberg

    Dan Lindberg Ex Wood Hoarder

    If I remember correctly, John W said stretching up to about 5% was "OK", after that you started getting different hull performance.

    Dan
     
  9. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    I did not lose it.

    It says, "Who hid my paddle?"
    And now we have a suspect.
    Have you ever been to Beaverswamp?
     
  10. bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    i once knew a beaver who claimed to be from there or knew someone who was from there. i can't recall which.;)
     
  11. john hupfield

    john hupfield fire starter/wood burner

    5% sounds about right.

    Beaverswamp Oklahoma or Beaverswamp Michigan?
    Was your car very wet and covered with Algae?Did it say SeaDoo on the side?
    John
     
  12. Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

    beaverswamp

    steer wide of hupfield, he has the animals trained to do his bidding.
    hence his often humorous punctuation - although they have taken on his sensitive palete, often turning their nose up at otherwise fine fare.
     

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  13. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    reminds me-

    Hi Bob, that reminds me of the time I tried crossing a beaver pond up in the hills near the Porkies, The ice was too thin, I fell through. And then on that same mountain My knife slipped one year and went into my wrist. Made it to Ironwood for stitches. I should call it my lucky mountain for its beauty and Whitetails. Maybe that's where my paddle is hidden.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.
     

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