Morris Maybe??

smallboatshop

Restorers

• Jul 28, 2012

• #1

This canoe had splayed stems with rivets, Morris like decks, thwarts and seats; but the inwales were not notched. You could feel the space between the ribs with your fingers indicating that the rail was rabbited rather than pocketed. What does that mean??

 

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MackyM

LOVES Wooden Canoes

• Jul 28, 2012

• #2

Dan,
Was there a small matal tag on the front splayed stem, or holes where it might have been? Also they put some tags on the inwale toward the front. When Kathy sees this post she will probably be able to help.

Macky

 

OP

OP

smallboatshop

Restorers

• Jul 28, 2012

• #3

Hi Macky,
There was no tag, nor holes; but there was a lot of paint. I know that Morris used softwood for stems and that that necessitated rivets rather that screws to secure the stembands. We've done Morris's before but not with rails that were not notched so that opens the discussion of Morris and Old Town or Morris and Kennebec. Kathy probably knows!
Dan

 

OP

OP

smallboatshop

Restorers

• Aug 3, 2012

• #4

Hi all,

Just putting this question out again. Have others seen Morris' with rabbited rails rather than pocketed rails. Any help here?
Dan

 

Dave Wermuth

Who hid my paddle?

• Aug 3, 2012

• #5

I will venture a guess that the inwales were given a big rabbet by the guy who replaced them 50 years ago?

 

Dan Miller

cranky canoeist

Staff member

• Aug 4, 2012

• #6

smallboatshop said:

Hi all,

Just putting this question out again. Have others seen Morris' with rabbited rails rather than pocketed rails. Any help here?
Dan

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Yes, but it had a Kennebec tag on it. It was built in 1913.

 

OP

OP

smallboatshop

Restorers

• Aug 4, 2012

• #7

Hi Dan,

Sorry for a confusion. The Kennebec was also in this barn along with an unnamed Charles River canoe, the Toppan Canoe, a Toppan skiff, an OT double ender, a 14' OT Sq Stern and a 16' (or maybe 18') OT Sq Stern. It was an interesting time climbing in around them all. Hope to find more barns with boats!

 

Dan Miller

cranky canoeist

Staff member

• Aug 4, 2012

• #8

No, I am saying I had a Kennebec, with Morris-style stems and decks, with a rabbeted inwale. Here are pics (sorry for the mud wasp debris). While the tag isn't on the deck in the photo, it was present.

No one knows (yet) whether the "Kennebec Morrises" were built by Morris and sold by Kennebec, or whether Kennebec was building them their own selves, perhaps on a mold they acquired from Morris. I am inclined to believe the latter. Regardless, they they turn up regularly.

Dan

 

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OP

OP

smallboatshop

Restorers

• Aug 4, 2012

• #9

Thanks Dan, that's great information. I'll pass that along.