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Discussion in 'Canoe Sailing' started by floydvoid, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. floydvoid

    floydvoid Curious about Wooden Canoes

    I have resuscitated my once healthy sailing interest this summer with a very lichen covered Sunfish and I would love to sail a canoe.
    I am hungry for more pictures of sailing canoe rigs, parts and setups.

    I have "The Book" and have been reading as much as I can. I have standard canoe old town boats to set up in this way and would love to see what those look like all set up.

    I would like to take a canoe on a weekend trip somewhere to paddle (CT to NH) and have the option to sail or paddle on one of the bigger NH lakes. Looking at something like a lanteen with a smaller sail area so I don't overpower things in heavy wind. I also have a standard shape mainsail and jib from an old project boat I may repurpose totalling about 52 square feet.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    Not sure this is what you meant... :eek:

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  3. Todd Bradshaw

    Todd Bradshaw Sailmaker

    I have a few sent back by sailmaking customers over the years once they got the boat and rig assembled and out on the water.

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  4. Todd Bradshaw

    Todd Bradshaw Sailmaker

    Found a couple more.

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  5. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    I have always liked twin lateen rigs so the pictures at http://www.wcha.org/sites/default/files/node_gallery/2018-12-18 from 01-2011.jpg and https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?attachments/46712/ show two of mine. The pictures at https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/11245/ may help if you want to play with a jib (or a centerboard). The catalog images at https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/4107/ show how the standard Old Town lateen rig has changed over time. Let us know what you decide to do.

    Benson
     
  6. Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

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    floydvoid

    floydvoid Curious about Wooden Canoes

    These are great! I have been scouring all of the sailing canoe pages for pictures.

    Benson- that old negative of the boat with a jib- does the sail have an upper spar that gets hauled to meet the mast totally vertical? The luff of my current sail is 10' 4" and maybe that could help limit the height of the mast and use a lighter/skinnier upper spar. Still thinking about it, is a 13' mast a bit tall for a canoe?

    Any more pictures of a sloop rig?
     
  8. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    Sloop rigs aren't common on canoes since this tends to put so much weight and force up so high that it becomes very difficult to stay upright. The Class "C" rig shown at http://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/covers/large-65.gif doesn't have a jib and is not easy to sail in anything more than a light breeze. The old negative with a jib shows a Leg-o'-Mutton rig and the thread at https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/3994/ has more detailed pictures of how these look. The pictures below show both 90 and 60 square foot versions of this rig. The upper spar (or yard or gaff) is nearly vertical. The information at https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/969/ indicates that most lateen rigs have masts that are considerably less than 13 feet.

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    floydvoid

    floydvoid Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Wow ! I love these Leg o mutton rigs! Have you seen these rigs on boats without the built in center board? I am fascinated by the center board, seems like those boats are harder to find.
     
  10. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

  11. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    Yes, but the Leg-o'-Mutton rigs are about as rare as the centerboard canoes. A group from the Upper Chesapeake chapter in Maryland recently added a centerboard to an old canoe and built a new Leg-o'-Mutton rig for it. This will probably be written up in a future issue of the Wooden Canoe Journal. See http://www.wcha.org/local-area-chapters to contact Bud Gillis for more details. You can also adapt a lateen rig to be similar. Some pictures are attached below.

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  12. nottlerack

    nottlerack New Member

  13. martin ferwerda

    martin ferwerda LOVES Wooden Canoes

    hiawatha_sail48.jpg I'll toss this one in...
     
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  14. JClearwater

    JClearwater Wooden Canoe Maniac

    Here is another to add to the gallery. This is Stephanie Lynn at the 2014 Assembly at PSC. Stephanie Lynn is a 1943 Old Town Double-End Boat with an after market Sprit Sail rig. Paul Smiths-0072A.jpg
     
  15. JClearwater

    JClearwater Wooden Canoe Maniac

    And here is another. 1923 Old Town HW with sponsons, AA grade. At Assembly a few years ago. Assembly2012-2.jpg
     
  16. Blott

    Blott LOVES Wooden Canoes

    68D59F15-3B72-41F9-8CCE-FB1A3F4FAA5E.jpeg Here is the lateen rig on my 1900 Cedar Rib

    Below is the lug sail rig on my Pal.
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    Both sail beautifully

    Nick
     
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  17. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    Nice sails, Nick, but that barn is simply awesome!
     
  18. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    I’m with Dan. I almost didn’t notice the canoe for the amazing stone building. Nice!

    ...the sailing canoes are pretty cool too
     
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    floydvoid

    floydvoid Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Yea!! Keep them coming!

    I've managed to pick up three lanteen rigs in the last few months. Two of them are 40-50s fabric and will need major patching or replacing. I found pima cotton bed sheets I hope to use for making a replacement or a new type of sail all together. Sewing machine is getting tuned up now.
     
  20. Todd Bradshaw

    Todd Bradshaw Sailmaker

    Once you are done sewing your cotton sail, order a bottle of 303 Fabric Guard (available from Amazon if you don't have a different source). It's a pump spray and pricey ($27 per quart) but well worth the money. In addition to UV resistance it makes a huge difference in how much water the cotton sail can soak up if you dump the boat.

    These Egyptian cotton samples, with and without the Fabric Guard, were dunked in water about ten minutes before the photo was taken. The untreated one was completely soaked immediately. The water just rolled off the treated sample. When dry, they looked exactly the same. 303-test-002a.jpg
     

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