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Kennebec Canoes, Harvey Inboard Motor Case?

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by DavidK, Feb 19, 2021.

  1. DavidK

    DavidK Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Has anyone here ever seen one of these motor wells intended to use an outboard as an inboard? I found this in Bob Spelts' book. Also, is there a more appropriate forum to post this question?

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  2. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

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    DavidK

    DavidK Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks for your response, Benson! Cool info there. Where are all these boats???
     
  4. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    Most old wooden boats were abandoned to rot after fiberglass became popular. Some small marine museums got started at that time because people were giving away their old boats. I have only ever seen a few motor canoes like the one shown above.

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  5. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    I know a private collection containing 5 or more traditional double-ended cedar-canvas motor canoes that have outboards for power. I’m not sure if any of them use this particular well design though.
     
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    DavidK

    DavidK Curious about Wooden Canoes

    I have a friend with an inboard Kennebec. He plans to run it this year. I'll try to get pictures and post them here.

    I'd love to see any examples of an outboard in a "motor case."
     
  7. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    I haven't seen a canoe with a Harvey case, though I have seen canoes with through-hull mounted outboards, like the one shown in this 1916 flyer. With no means to kick up, I expect a number of canoes were sunk by inattentive canoe-motorists. :eek:

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    DavidK

    DavidK Curious about Wooden Canoes

    I think Old Town was affiliated with Johnson outboards. Interesting to see Kennebec align with Evinrude.
     
  9. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    Sue Audette's book The Old Town Canoe Company: Our First Hundred Years says "By 1923 Old Town Canoe took on the distributorship of the complete line of popular Johnson outboard motors, becoming Johnson's first distributor" on page 67. See https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/11544/ for more about some inboard motor canoes that they made prior to 1923.

    Evinrude was often described as "Evin-crude" when I was a child wandering around the Old Town factory in the 1960s. Their factory inventory from December 31st, 1910 had a Thrall engine with a value of $45 in stock on page 124. This and an advertisement for these motors from 1909 are shown below.

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    DavidK

    DavidK Curious about Wooden Canoes

    By the 60's, the Evin-crudes were mechanically the same as the Johnsons. Just a different hood and different color.

    Johnson introduced their outboards in 1922. Old Town was an early adopter!
     
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