cleaning up difficult to reach parts of stems.

Discussion in 'Tips and Tricks' started by alick burt, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. alick burt

    alick burt LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Hello Folks
    Here is a little tip I thought up and found useful today whilst cleaning up the white lead and last bits of varnish on my stems.
    The gap is too small for even my skinny fingers to hold sandpaper so I folded a small piece and gripped it between two thin pieces of wood like so.

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    Then worked it between the ribs like this.

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    I had to change the paper quite often as such a small piece clogs quickly and I was also careful to make sure it was narrow enough so it wasn't cutting into the ribs.

    Cheers

    Alick :)
     
  2. Cliff Ober

    Cliff Ober Enthusiastic about Wooden Canoes

    Hi Alick,

    I was just lookong at your pictures and really noticed what you're working on; is this the Gordon canoe you'd mentioned in another post?

    I have an old Gordon model Lakefield canoe with the alternating strip construction; here's a link that leads to pictures: https://cdober.smugmug.com/share/cdober-canoes
    Follow the "Alma's Canoe" path to see it. Does this look like what you're working on? If you have pictures of yours I'd be very interested in seeing them (I'd bet others would too!).

    Cliff
     
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    alick burt

    alick burt LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Hi Cliff
    Yes this is the Gordon Canoe (Felix's Canoe)that I mentioned in other posts.
    There are many similarities and I have been doing a blog on my website as well as posting a few pictures here.This is how I discovered she is a Gordon.http://www.woodencanoes.uk/single-p...oe-Teak-cleaner-reveals-something-interesting

    I also have the back seat but am missing the bottom boards though I still have the clips that held them in.It would be nice to get a picture or tracing of some originals so I can replicate the shape and make some from the correct timber.

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    Will be posting more as work progresses.

    Cheers

    Alick
     
  4. Cliff Ober

    Cliff Ober Enthusiastic about Wooden Canoes

    Alick, the clips you have may be intended to hold down a grid style floor rack as some other manufacturers made. In my canoe the floor boards are planks of basswood (about 1/4 to 5/16ths thick) that are screwed in place. I think pictures from the link I sent previously shows enough of their shape to allow adequate reproductions to be fabricated if you wanted to go that route.

    I also put up several additional shots that show the rear seat and it's mounting. You might note too the canoe's serial number is stamped into the bottom of the seat.

    I hope some of that helps...

    Cliff
     
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    alick burt

    alick burt LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Thanks Cliff
    My seat doesn't have a thwart directly in front of it like yours and the ribs go to the top so I think it has always been that way but the seat itself is almost identical apart from mine has a few worm holes and I haven't seen any numbers on it.I will keep a close eye on it when I give it a clean.
    I don't have a seat back like yours (and might make one) and..
    I was given a rear seat piece which appears to lean against one of the thwarts but it has a curious feature in that it has a slot where a keelson would be but my canoe has no keelson I guess it may have been made to fit all boats in the same range and just slotted to make it universal or perhaps it is from a different boat.I will take a pic of it tomorrow if I remember.
    Cheers
    Alick
     
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    alick burt

    alick burt LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Hello Folks
    I took some pictures of my seat bits today.
    I took the rear seat supports out to make stripping behind and around them easier. They and the seat parts all have a bit of woodworm which I will treat but there is no sign of any serial no.
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    The other seat appears to be a back that leans against a thwart though like I said it may be from another canoe as mine has no keelson and the part has a slot in it for one.Does anyone else have one of these?

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    it has a cross piece that fits under the thwart on its back.

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    cheers

    Alick
     
  7. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    The seat back shown at http://wcha.org/pp-classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1273 is somewhat similar and appears to be much older than the canoe it came with.

    Benson
     
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    alick burt

    alick burt LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Hi Benson
    That's an interesting variation and I like the shape too.I bet they are good to paddle with when its windy as you can sit low in the canoe to cut down wind resistance.

    Cheers

    Alick
     
  9. Michael Duffy

    Michael Duffy canoeist canoe builder

    Interesting setup. I like it.
    I try to set my seats as low as possible to keep the center of gravity low and I need to sit as I can no longer kneel (damn knees and old age). I'll try and incorporate this design in my next canoe

    Thanks
    Mike
     

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