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1916 B.N Morris 18'

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by Christopher Lovell, Jan 12, 2021.

  1. Christopher Lovell

    Christopher Lovell Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Hi all,

    I bought this 1916 B.N. Morris 18' canoe from a gentleman in New Hampshire this past weekend. All original, tight canvas, only needs exterior prep and paint. Complete with original seat backs and floorboards. Bow floorboard toggle was lost and was replaced with wood. Otherwise pristine!

    Can anyone help me with a model and type? It's hard for me to visualize the different models and types without seeing them.

    Thank you in advance!
     

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  2. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

  3. 1905Gerrish

    1905Gerrish LOVES Wooden Canoes

    It would be nice to display that at the Alton Bay Boat Show in August. I believe Ill make it with a couple canoes as long as it does not get canceled.
     
  4. chris pearson

    chris pearson Michigan Canoe Nut

    That is awesome. If the paint is original, its an artifact!!!
     
  5. OP
    OP
    Christopher Lovell

    Christopher Lovell Curious about Wooden Canoes

    It seems that there is a blue tinge under the green paint. I haven’t investigated whether it is an old repaint or whether it is some sort of degradation of the original green.

    In order to be useable the boat will need a paint restoration. I won’t touch anything else except to clean it. The original canvas is intact and tight, as is the filler.

    What would painting the hull do to value? Is it better to leave it alone and treat it as a museum piece?
     
  6. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    This is really a personal choice. It is best to do nothing if your plan is to sell or donate it. Most members of the WCHA like to paddle canoes so accept that new paint, varnish, and even canvas replacements are normal maintenance. These tasks generally don't negatively impact the value if they are done well. See https://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/57/ for more details about valuing old canoes.

    Benson
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2021 at 12:14 PM
  7. OP
    OP
    Christopher Lovell

    Christopher Lovell Curious about Wooden Canoes

  8. MGC

    MGC Scrapmaker

    The photo that shows the deck decal also appears to show green pant on the outside rail. That suggests that the boat has been re-painted. It is possible that the original canvas is intact. The original outside stem rivets look like they might be present.
    It is possible to carefully remove paint from a canvas to reveal whatever is underneath. If the canvas and the filler are still good it might be worth the effort. Otherwise if you plan to use it, you might want to be more thorough in your restoration. You would want to protect it from sun and water...
     
  9. OP
    OP
    Christopher Lovell

    Christopher Lovell Curious about Wooden Canoes

    The original canvas rivets are in place. The stem band is painted over so I believe there is a working repaint. Everything else is untouched.
     

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